Route help Please?

[pcohen]

Hello again Ged, This Is how I have progressed so far:-

I currently have this Route Running. Without any Rolling Stock changes.

I started by Removing the Route and reinstalling Version 1, after trying
a couple of the French side Activities, I then added the Tunnel-Mods which I assume Patches It up to Version 2. At this stage everything seems to be running fine.

As you are probably aware from over the Years I prefer to run the Longer Activities, usally about a Couple of Hours or so.

The Activity "StPancras-Brussels" looked very Interesting but as already stated, The Rolling Stock Required for the Route Is Virtually
non-existant, as I suspect, so Is the Activity.

I will be most disappointed If I cannot get this to Run.

But I will now Try UKTS_36653_stn_St.Pancras_Lille_by_Eurostar and UKTS_36661_stn_St.Pancras_Lille. And hope I progress further

also please, can you remind me how to display my computer specs on the Forums?

Many thanks

Paul.

Hello again, Don't understand this

First File 36653 No files found for your selected criteria

Second File 36661 File Found

UKTS Prefix doesn't make a difference.

[niknak]

I thought I'd download this route as I live near to Folkestone so it has some interest.
However I'm currently having Paul's original problem of getting the 'A fatal error has occurred and Open Rails cannot continue.
System NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an Instance of an Object.' message when trying to load an activity that involves using the tunnel. ( UK-only acts are fine although the OR log (attached) is rather full !! ).
This is with using the ORIGINAL activities which use default stock. I haven't yet downloaded any additional activities so it's not a rolling stock problem.

Any thoughts guys?

[pcohen]

Hi niknak , Thanks for the Interest.

Does your ORIGINAL activities which use default stock Include "St.Pancras_Lille_by_Eurostar_v2" please?

Many thanks

Paul.

[niknak]

Hi Paul,
No, there are only three original UK-only activities and they only cover the Ashford - Folkestone section of the route.

[slipperman]

Hi,
@ Nick : It's good that you are having similar problems to Paul because I don't get the same errors.
I wonder if we're using a different route? Mine is from file IDs 12727 to 12731 inclusive plus 12739 (which replaces the .sd files in the route's SHAPES folder for correct night views).
I have NOT added file ID 35844 (Tunnel-Mods) - If you and Paul have, then that might be the cause of the problem - please let me know and I'll add it. It was issued a lot later than the original route, but at about the same time as the Lille activity was issued.

@ Paul : Sorry, mate, it looks as if v1 of the activity was replaced by v2 in the UKTS library. Trouble with me is that I never throw anything away!!
I could send it to you but I think it'd be preferable to solve the problem you're having with v2, but as Nick is having a similar problem, it appears that the route is the source of the problem.

Cheers,
Ged

EDIT : Adding Tunnel-Mods results in the route failing to run, giving a fatal error message! Changing Tsection.dat from #38 to #60 doesn't help!

[niknak]

Hi Ged,

Yes I'm ecstatic to be having the same problems as Paul....

I have those same inclusive files as you quoted for the route PLUS the Tunnel-Mods.

I'd overlooked the 12739 sd replacement file but now have that installed.

I agree that perhaps the tunnel-mod file is the culprit.

[niknak]

Hi Ged,

Just seen your update. Looks like the solution is simply to run the route without the Tunnel-Mods file then I guess?

[pcohen]

Hi Ged, Have you tried to run the "St.Pancras_Lille_by_Eurostar_v2" under your Version please?

Thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi,
@ NIck : Yes, mate. v1.1 of the route runs OK.
For the route + Tunnel-Mods, Route_Riter reported initially that the .trk file was missing. Indeed, it was. named CTunnel.trk - this is the same as in v1 and, as Open Rails seems to accept it, I think it's a red herring for 'our' current problem!

@ Paul : Yes, I have run v1 and v2 of the activity successfully using v1.1 of the route - ie the one WITHOUT the Tunnel - Mods add-on but with UKTS_12739_tunnelpatch-1.1.zip

Cheers,
Ged

EDIT : Removed misleading information regarding Route_Riter report!

[pcohen]

Hi ged, I know have the following Files together:-

UKTS_12727_tunnel-01, UKTS_12728_tunnel-02, UKTS_12729_tunnel-03, UKTS_12730_tunnel-04, UKTS_12731_tunnel-05
Plus UKTS_12739_tunnelpatch-1.1 Is this all I need please? or do I still have to use UKTS_35844_Tunnel-Mods.

And more Importantly will UKTS_36661_stn_St.Pancras_Lille_by_Eurostar_v2 still Run please?

Many thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
Yes, mate, that is all you need. DO NOT use UKTS_35844!
Unpack each of the files 12727, 12728, 12729, 12739 and 12731
Create a new, temporary folder, named whatever you like.
12727 will unpack two files, tunnelsetup.exe and tunnelsetup-1.bin - copy these two files into your temporary folder.
12728 will unpack one file, tunnelsetup-2.bin - copy it into your temporary folder.
12729 will unpack one file, tunnelsetup-3.bin - copy it into your temporary folder.
12730 will unpack one file, tunnelsetup-4.bin - copy it into your temporary folder.
12731 will unpack one file, tunnelsetup-5.bin - copy it into your temporary folder.
Your temporary folder will now contain one .exe file and five .bin files.
Run tunnelsetup.exe and the route will be unpacked into your default MSTS installation - you do not have a choice! YOU don't do anything with the .bin files.
During installation, many files will be copied from the default routes.
When completed, you can unpack file 12739 which will give one file, tunnelpatch-1.1.exe. Run this file (It fixes the shape .sd files for display at night).
That's it, except for installing the Lille activity and making sure you've got all the required stock!
You can now delete the temporary folder.

v2 of the activity WILL run as long as you're the driver - it will not run using Autopilot, but I don't know why - OR just closes with a 'fatal' error with many "Warning: Train 0 service PLAYER, reversal or end point off path; distance to reversal point set to -1" messages on the log (previously posted).

By the way, please ignore my previous comment regarding Route-Riter's route Integrity check - there are no missing files from the route. I was misreading the report! It was listing the files called by the global tsection.dat file which aren't present in the current GLOBAL/SHAPES folder DOH!!!
I have removed those details from that post.

Cheers,
Ged

[niknak]

Hi Ged,

Yes that was it. I reinstalled the route leaving out the Tunnel-Mods file and it runs ok now under the sea. I'll try and ignore the myriad of warnings in the OR log.


@Ged and Paul: btw the 'Alltrain' route in the file library here has a host of European rolling stock that comes with the route and may be useful with this Tunnel route too.

[pcohen]

Well Ged, here's the surprise, Have done exactly as you have Instructed above and here's what's happening:-

I now have created Two problems:-

1. When copying the "St.Pancras_Lille_by_Eurostar_v2" APK File to TSunpak Get Message:-

Failed to Read Route Info.

2 When OpenRails File opens The Locomotive entry says "missing Eurostar"

I think the Rolling Stock Content Is the Issue here As I could only find Seven Files of the 64 Files required in the File search List all the rest were
listed as not recognised. and without these it will not run at all

Beginning to think I should knock this one on the head!

Many thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
There is no .apk file!
Unpack UKTS_36661_stn_St.Pancras_Lille_by_Eurostar_v2.zip which will give you Routes and Trains folders plus a .txt file. Copy the folders into your 'root' folder (probably 1MSTS).

For starters, you need the JustTrains Euro Loco Train pack for the player train (but with its folder name changed, as I reported earlier).

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Well, guess what, it must be me that's at fault, I cannot find this either "JustTrains Euro Loco Train pack"

Am giving up for tonight, have been at this Since 06:30 this Morning.

Thanks

Paul.