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  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #16
    It won't. I have around a dozen routes in process or planned and if I cannot quickly find the problem, I'll issue it as-is with a note about the issue. As it is, the route won't be complete anyway as there is a lot of fine details that could be added. At the moment, I am cleaning up Harriman to Clinton, TN including a long spur to the maximum security prison at Petros, TN which is now a museum, and to the industrial area of Oak Ridge. My first problem is finding the world file that has the problem. Then you can manually delete a lot of object but not track or roads as that will put the database file out of synch with the world file. There are a number of submerged road or track pieces and using the error log allows one to jump to the offending item and so far I have been able to easily delete them. There were some other errors that I also was able to delete but they had no effect on the issue at hand.

    Jerry

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    • landnrailroader
      4000 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 4171
      • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
      • ORTS

      #17
      It seemed unlikely that a submerged object might be the issue. When I operated a activity eastbound through the area I got sort of an error, in that the screen went black near mile 67 but the keyboard was still active. Then after about a minute, the screen came back up and the activity was stopped but then restarted on it's own without losing any previous speed or location. So I used the "load all world files" and then checked the error messages. There were 73 of them, all but a few submerged road pieces, so I removed all of them, which I would do anyway before releasing a route. Now, at the same location, going east, there was a flash of the track monitor window (i.e. F4 window) near 67, but then it continued on and this flash was more like a reset, very quick. The westbound error at mile 66 still exists and will probably still be present when I release the route. Maybe somebody smarter than I can figure it out.

      Jerry
      Last edited by landnrailroader; 05-05-2025, 11:54.

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      • landnrailroader
        4000 Post Veteran



        • Nov 1999
        • 4171
        • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
        • ORTS

        #18
        I had deleted the *_e.raw and *_n.raw files on this route since they are not used by ORTS and this did reduce the size a lot. I thought I might have accidently deleted either of the two other files that must remain but alas, this was not the case, so I have no idea why there is a one-way total crash and a one-way burp for several seconds near the same location. I suspect a corrupt element in a world file, but how do we know which world file has started to load when the error, especially that of the hard crash occurs. I should release this and the Knoxville Div. route later this year. I have almost got all roads and track in on the KD and right now I am working on the old H&NE which was abandoned around 1985. It extended originally from Harriman to Petros, TN and served coal mines in two or three locations including Petros, but what it is most famous for (or infamous) is providing an outlet for the coal mined by convicts at Brushy Mtn. Prison. When I was growing up in Nashville, my father & other fathers, besides applying the belt of education would often say that if we did not straighten up and fly right we would end up in Brushy Mtn. Had no idea what that was until I worked for SR in the late 60s,early 70s and coal was still coming from there. Now it is a museum. Google it, the history is interesting. And Eric, be careful down there, you will only be living 15 miles more or less from Petros.

        Jerry Sullivan

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