Monon-2 - Mismatched Shapes with Replacement Tracks

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  • wmuzeke
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    • Jan 2021
    • 87
    • Sacramento, CA
    • General

    #1

    Monon-2 - Mismatched Shapes with Replacement Tracks

    I'm using the Default Replacement Tracks - ATracks (File ID 88570) with Monon-2 V17. This is at the north end of Adams Siding.

    I have the Trackprofiles folder in the route's folder. In addition to ATracks, this route uses track shapes contained in the Monon-2\Tracks-ND folder.

    At this location the 2 track shapes joining are A1tFrog5dRgt.s and ..\\..\\Routes\\MONON-2\\Tracks-ND\\NR_Emb_track_Rock\\NR_Emb_a2dt10mStrt.s

    Is there any way to fix this?​​​​​​​

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  • geepster775
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    • Sep 2006
    • 2846
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    • General

    #2
    My gut feeling is this was such a customized route (like London and Port Stanley) that it renders itself unable to participate in other later upgrade endeavors.

    P.S. I really dislike dynatrax-style hard paths for track shapes edited into world files. You end up basically stuck with route names and directory structures envisioned by the author. Especially on a route this large with too much for the user to mod to their own structure. Rocky embankments are not a great enough visual upgrade that eventually disqualifies the route from using super-elevation and other new OR features.

    Keep that in mind for other routes that were upgraded to USTracks before the trackprofiles for dynamic track were developed and dynatrax was used to make the dynamic track profile match (Hook and Eye, for example)
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    • Rick-MONON
      1500 Post Veteran
      • Feb 2008
      • 1795
      • Elizabethtown, Ky
      • ORTS

      #3
      The track in question is a:
      NR_Emb_a2dt10mStrt.s

      There are many of those on the Adams siding.

      First question:
      Is this the only spot or are there more spots on the siding that are like this??????

      Second question:
      In the folder
      NR_Emb_track_Rock

      under
      ROUTES\MONON-2\Tracks-ND\NR_Emb_track_Rock

      is the shape
      NR_Emb_a2dt10mStrt.s
      in that folder above??????

      Also, turn off super elevation when using this route. It was not built to use it.
      Rick

      http:\\mononrr.com

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      • wmuzeke
        Member



        • Jan 2021
        • 87
        • Sacramento, CA
        • General

        #4
        Originally posted by Rick-MONON
        is the shape
        NR_Emb_a2dt10mStrt.s
        in that folder above??????
        It's there. I have super elevation set at 0.

        At Adams the mismatch is also at the south end of the siding - both tracks. There are other spots. This one is on the north side of the White River bridge south of Gosport.

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        • eric
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          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
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          #5
          I wish I could say there's a quick fix, but there isn't aside from recreating the static pieces or removing the static references, which might destroy the look and feel that Rick worked to provide.

          If it's limited to a few pieces (e.g. the 10m straights) , you might be able to copy the corresponding A-Tracks piece from Global\Shapes, and paste it into the sub-directory using the name of the substituted piece. Back up the route's track shape directories before attempting that.
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          • Rick-MONON
            1500 Post Veteran
            • Feb 2008
            • 1795
            • Elizabethtown, Ky
            • ORTS

            #6
            Very odd that the piece is there but not showing, unless it is corrupted, maybe.
            Putting that piece in the global/shapes is a good idea to try, but it may not match up the textures.
            Rick

            http:\\mononrr.com

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            • pgroenbaek
              Member
              • Jan 2024
              • 98
              • Denmark
              • ORTS

              #7
              I can be of help if you need the points of the rails vertices in the shapes moved inwards to match the other track.

              I wrote some Python code the other day that can do stuff like this for both curved and straight track. I cannot add/remove vertices, but I can move them around and change the corresponding uv values as well.

              One of the things I have done successfully with it so far is create V4hs_RKL 1t slab track out of standard DB1z tracks. Pretty interesting things can be done with it.
              - Peter

              Route Projects: DK24
              Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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              • wmuzeke
                Member



                • Jan 2021
                • 87
                • Sacramento, CA
                • General

                #8
                Thank you, Peter for uploading the fix for this. It looks great.

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                • pgroenbaek
                  Member
                  • Jan 2024
                  • 98
                  • Denmark
                  • ORTS

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wmuzeke
                  Thank you, Peter for uploading the fix for this. It looks great.
                  No problem. Let me know if you encounter any issues with them.
                  - Peter

                  Route Projects: DK24
                  Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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