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  • gates5of1
    Senior Member

    • Feb 2011
    • 139
    • Woodbridge Va.

    #1

    UP Gila not loading

    Good afternoon all recently downloaded the latest UP route it has a pop-up stating that open rails detected a track section which is not present in the tsection.dat and cannot continue most likely you don't have the x track or Y track version needed for this route. Have I miss something?
  • landnrailroader
    4000 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 4171
    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
    • ORTS

    #2
    I don't know about that but in my case it loads fine but wherever there is this fast track, I just see a black bar, so there is a texture missing. I did download the FR tracks set and I put that and the route in my ORTS directory which is not where I keep anything critical. I guess this route is west of Tucson. I kinda hoped it went east, at least as far as Cienega. (or however you spell it.) And I should admit that I was looking at it with TSRE rather than ORTS.

    I did try it and it works fine in ORTS.

    Jerry Sullivan
    Last edited by landnrailroader; 02-22-2025, 16:28. Reason: Added comments

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    • lineman
      Senior Member

      • Mar 2007
      • 539
      • Phoenix AZ
      • General

      #3
      there is a FRTracks.zip file in the route d/l.

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      • landnrailroader
        4000 Post Veteran



        • Nov 1999
        • 4171
        • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
        • ORTS

        #4
        If there was, I didn't see it. I downloaded the one that Eric put in the library downloads section which I guess is the same.

        Jerry

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        • eric
          9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
          • English, SQL
          • General

          #5
          You'll need to copy and rename the TSection included in the FRTracks.zip and also download the track shapes into Global\Shapes.

          Jerry, if you're seeing black track, that's interesting... FRTracks uses the same textures as ScaleRail, and those are included in the UP-Gila\Textures folder, so all the track would be black. Send me a screenshot and the error from either your ORTS or TSRE logs.

          I hadn't considered going east to Lordsburg. Phoenix is probably more likely than Nogales to be next up.
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          • gates5of1
            Senior Member

            • Feb 2011
            • 139
            • Woodbridge Va.

            #6
            this route does it require x or y tracks am i to use the Tsection i have check the FRtrack and everything looks the same.

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            • kennyeaton
              Senior Member


              • Oct 2008
              • 268
              • Stony Point, NC
              • MSOR

              #7
              Hi Eric,

              I have installed as instructed. My problem is when renaming the tsection, it doesn't turn into a (.DAT) file. How do I fix this?

              Kenny

              Untitled.jpg

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              • eric
                9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                • Dec 2002
                • 9583
                • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                • English, SQL
                • General

                #8
                Originally posted by gates5of1
                this route does it require x or y tracks am i to use the Tsection i have check the FRtrack and everything looks the same.
                No, it does not use either. It uses Scalerail and FRTracks, and there's a replacement tsection.dat in the FRTracks zip that you can safely replace your existing tsection.dat with (it's version 60a).

                That error is horribly misleading, but the ORTS team won't fix it....

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                • eric
                  9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9583
                  • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                  • English, SQL
                  • General

                  #9
                  Kenny, it looks like you are hiding extensions for known filetypes in Windows.

                  You may need to disable that in order to do the renaming. I normally rename the original file to tsection.old and then the new to tsection.dat, but with that Windows feature on, it might be preventing you from changing the entire name, including the file extension.

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                  • landnrailroader
                    4000 Post Veteran



                    • Nov 1999
                    • 4171
                    • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Eric,

                    I did all that you mentioned. Just on my PC for a quicky and then my wife and I will going to celebrate our son-in-laws birthday. I'll get you the screen clip and error data tonight.

                    Jerry

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                    • landnrailroader
                      4000 Post Veteran



                      • Nov 1999
                      • 4171
                      • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
                      • ORTS

                      #11
                      Eric,

                      The view with black bars where some of the track should be is from TSRE and that with gray track is from ORTS. I have attached the log from TSRE that was generated when I opened the route showing black bars.

                      Jerry
                      Attached Files

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                      • eric
                        9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                        • Dec 2002
                        • 9583
                        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                        • English, SQL
                        • General

                        #12
                        Those are ScaleRail sections, not FastRail.

                        The black and gray happen when a DDS texture is expected by the shapes, which shouldn't be happening with the 3DTrains provided shapes.

                        If TrainSimulations updated the shapes to DDS and these were copied from one of their routes, that would be my guess. I'll see if I can provide some that match the ballast and berms.

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                        • amtrak115
                          Senior Member

                          • Oct 2005
                          • 289
                          • Parker, TX
                          • General

                          #13
                          Eric, I loaded the Gila Route today without any issues...Created an Activity (Very Simple one) ZLAMQ-05. basically a Z Stack train going west to east....I first tried the westeast1.pth for the player but that one stop at the far end of the yard in (I assume) Yuma. the switch was thrown against the path....so I got a red signal....nothing I hit would change the switch. So then I tried the westeast2.pth and that one appeared to work. ....for the most part. There were a few of those "grey sections" throughout randomly....I probably got about 3/4 through the route when I crashed....the log doesn't show anything...(attached)....anyway....for the most part it looked pretty good as a beta test....I guess my activity will have to be considered beta also....Anyway...looking forward to future updates.

                          Barry
                          OpenRailsLog.txt

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                          • landnrailroader
                            4000 Post Veteran



                            • Nov 1999
                            • 4171
                            • Jacksonville,, FL, USA.
                            • ORTS

                            #14
                            Just for kicks I used Shape Viewer and found that the scale rail shapes I have in my global are looking for .dds texture files none of which I have.I will check the library to see if there is a scale rail zip file there and if so, I'll redo the shapes. As I understand it, your scale rail shapes are looking for .ace texture files.

                            Jerry

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                            • kennyeaton
                              Senior Member


                              • Oct 2008
                              • 268
                              • Stony Point, NC
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              Originally posted by eric
                              Kenny, it looks like you are hiding extensions for known filetypes in Windows.

                              You may need to disable that in order to do the renaming. I normally rename the original file to tsection.old and then the new to tsection.dat, but with that Windows feature on, it might be preventing you from changing the entire name, including the file extension.

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                              Hi Eric,

                              I didn't mess with trying to figure out how to make a DAT file. I simply put the original (after making a copy) on the desktop along with the file you provided. Deleted the text out of the original and copy/paste the text from the one you provided into the original and saved. Dropped it back in the global and the route opened as it should.

                              Thanks
                              Kenny

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