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  • HookitandBookit
    Member
    • Feb 2021
    • 68

    #1

    Anyone knowledgeable about signals and signalling here? Help/Advice needed.

    I am sorry for pestering the forums with all my questions, i find the learning curve quite steep and altough i like tinkering and finding stuff out on my own sometimes one needs help. So, are there anyone knowledgeable about the subject of signalling who can off some advice? Heres my starting point:
    sigcfg_Checker v1.1 - Selected folder : E:\Norge ORTS\VBSR\Routes\Meråker


    scr>> Duplicate Script entry - Pri3Light on lines 1045 & 57
    scr>> Duplicate Script entry - Block5Light on lines 1162 & 118
    scr>> Duplicate Script entry - Middle3Light on lines 1465 & 290
    scr>> Duplicate Script entry - Middle2Light on lines 1496 & 473
    scr>> Duplicate Script entry - Dwarf4Light on lines 1628 & 565

    cfg>> No. of Signal Aspect Entries not equal to the number entered in SignalAspects.

    Line Number : 254 SignalAspects ( 2

    cfg>> Duplicate Signal Type - Pri3Light on lines 97 & 1020
    cfg>> Duplicate Signal Type - Middle3Light on lines 147 & 2095
    cfg>> Duplicate Signal Type - Middle2Light on lines 506 & 2146
    cfg>> Duplicate Signal Type - Dwarf4Light on lines 199 & 2391

    scr>> Signal Type : Block3LightNum from sigscr.dat [line 237] not listed in sigcfg.dat file
    scr>> Signal Type : Middle3LightPrevious from sigscr.dat [line 361] not listed in sigcfg.dat file
    scr>> Signal Type : Middle3LightOld from sigscr.dat [line 404] not listed in sigcfg.dat file


    Signal Types used in .tdb file

    Block3Light
    Dwarf4Light
    Middle2Light
    Middle3Light
    NorwSwArm2
    PO2Light
    POF2Light
    Pri2Light
    Pri2SimpLight
    Pri3Light
    PriDwarf7Light
    Warn3Light

    End of Report

    Needless to say, running trains on this line is near impossible without manually changing signals, if not the trains despite beeing the only train on th eline just sits there waiting for green.
  • slipperman
    3500 Post Veteran



    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #2
    Hi,
    I don't profess to know much about the MSTS/ORTS signalling system so my utility, sigcfg_Checker, only reports inconsistencies/discrepancies between the sig.cfg.dat, sigscr.dat and the route's .tdb file. In many cases, they do not cause to problem for MSTS or ORTS, but might cause messages to be displayed the the log of the latter.

    It needs somebody more knowledgeable on the subject to determine if the reported differences could cause problems and, if so, to suggest solutions.

    Cheers,
    Ged

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    • HookitandBookit
      Member
      • Feb 2021
      • 68

      #3
      I definately do need someone, i can't wrap my head around it. Here i am linking signals, making sure that they are properly linked. But when i examine the existing ones they are NOT linked to anything, yet they work?????!!!! Now i am really confused....does outbound signals not need to be linked? Only inbound signals?

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      • ZachBell4400
        Senior Member


        • Jul 2017
        • 480
        • Little Falls, MN
        • American English
        • ORTS

        #4
        On a route I'm building, for example, only the signals that protect switches (absolute signals) are linked to allow passing paths. The intermediate/bi-drectional signals can just be selected as "Check Next State" or something along that line, which shows the following signal status. A switch that diverges traffic will show Yellow-Yellow, or something like that. Make sure all signal heads allow for checking of next state if you are running a long-distance route.

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        • eric
          9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
          • English, SQL
          • General

          #5
          Originally posted by HookitandBookit
          I definately do need someone, i can't wrap my head around it. Here i am linking signals, making sure that they are properly linked. But when i examine the existing ones they are NOT linked to anything, yet they work?????!!!! Now i am really confused....does outbound signals not need to be linked? Only inbound signals?
          Not sure what you're calling inbound or outbound...

          For a path converging (i.e. joining with another path) on a red pole, signals will automatically link the path beyond the red pole/junction automatically.

          For a path diverging (i.e. splitting into two paths) at a red pole, you need to link the routes for it to work correctly.
          If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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          • HookitandBookit
            Member
            • Feb 2021
            • 68

            #6
            Whatever i do with signals here, none of them will let my train trought this junction. Any ideas?
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