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  • dforrestc
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 227
    • St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    • ORTS

    #1

    Russian Route?

    Is there a Russian route available for all the Russian stock we are seeing as available for download?
  • rdayt
    1000 Post Veteran

    • Nov 2007
    • 1291
    • SW MO
    • ORTS

    #2
    There are a lot of Russian routes available from Russian train sim sites.
    Some look really good but they use an .exe installer which is a no go for me.

    Randy

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    • slipperman
      3500 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 3787
      • Worksop, UK
      • MSOR

      #3
      Hi Randy,
      Probably a silly question! Why is a .exe installer a no go for you?
      There are many addons with .exe installers and I've never had any problems with them.
      Maybe it's because you can't open it and see the folders and files which are to be installed? If so, just point it to a temporary folder. If it requires a 'proper' MSTS folder (with Registry entry), just rename your existing MSTS folder and create a new (temporary) one with its original name and install into that. You can then rename the temporary MSTS folder as you require and restore the original name to the 'proper' MSTS folder. It's the sort of thing I've done for years!!

      Cheers,
      Ged

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      • rdayt
        1000 Post Veteran

        • Nov 2007
        • 1291
        • SW MO
        • ORTS

        #4
        With all of the hacking and attacks on computer networks in the news today I'm leery of running .exes from unknown sources.
        Unfortunately Russia is at the top of the list.

        Randy

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        • gammaray84
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2018
          • 180

          #5
          There is one really good on Elvas Tower webpage.
          Suojärvi route. Version 2 - Elvas Tower​

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          • TrainSimJack
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2022
            • 527

            #6
            Originally posted by rdayt
            With all of the hacking and attacks on computer networks in the news today I'm leery of running .exes from unknown sources.
            Unfortunately Russia is at the top of the list.

            Randy
            I agree, It took me several years to build up the courage to install openrails, and I don't feel great about running unsigned installers from companies like trainsimulations.net

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            • TrainSimJack
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2022
              • 527

              #7
              Originally posted by slipperman
              Hi Randy,
              Probably a silly question! Why is a .exe installer a no go for you?
              There are many addons with .exe installers and I've never had any problems with them.
              Maybe it's because you can't open it and see the folders and files which are to be installed? If so, just point it to a temporary folder. If it requires a 'proper' MSTS folder (with Registry entry), just rename your existing MSTS folder and create a new (temporary) one with its original name and install into that. You can then rename the temporary MSTS folder as you require and restore the original name to the 'proper' MSTS folder. It's the sort of thing I've done for years!!

              Cheers,
              Ged
              Ged, because an .exe is a program that can do a number of things - it may /look/ like an installer, but there is no easy way for a user to confirm that it doesn't also do something else.

              This is the same reason to avoid downloading pirated installers for commercial software - it's very common for bad guys to package up malware in an installer for popular programs.

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              • rdayt
                1000 Post Veteran

                • Nov 2007
                • 1291
                • SW MO
                • ORTS

                #8
                I had an old computer, up until about a year ago, that I used to run .exes on just to extract the files. Then I could copy them over without worrying about it.
                I may have to revisit that method.
                I still don't understand why they package them that way. Makes no sense.

                Randy

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                • slipperman
                  3500 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 3787
                  • Worksop, UK
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Hi Randy and Jack,
                  Apologies ! I hadn't considered the malware aspect, probably because I've always downloaded from reputable sites. I take your point about Russian sites.

                  Cheers,
                  Ged

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                  • eric
                    9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                    • Dec 2002
                    • 9583
                    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                    • English, SQL
                    • General

                    #10
                    If you are really concerned about executables, considering using a Sandbox or a VM to extract them.
                    If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                    • ftldave
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 448
                      • Bloomington, Indiana

                      #11
                      Originally posted by eric
                      If you are really concerned about executables, considering using a Sandbox or a VM to extract them.
                      That may be a stretch as advice for many people who will have no idea. It's not uncommon on here to see folks who don't know how to use search to find files on their computers or how to manage their file directories, not without guidance. When people ask me about the trainsim hobby, I always preface with the need to have computer skills. The ones who might as well say they believe that magic genies make computers work, it's probably not a good hobby for them, at least not the MSTS\ORTS world.

                      Before installing major software or packages that I know might cause unwanted changes, I make a full disk-image backup of the pc's hard drive(s) using free Clonezilla Live on a thumb drive and either an external hard drive or a shared network directory to store the backup. Then I can roll the entire computer back to its original state if things go wrong. I think I used this technique to roll back to ORTS 1.4 when v1.5 proved problematic on my rig. And with SSD drives, gigabit Ethernet and USB 3 tech, it does not take that much time to do. And if you don't know how to boot your pc from a thumb drive, ignore my advice, maybe just better to trust nothing and avoid .exe installers.
                      FTLDave

                      "Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." - Wernher von Braun


                      "A software suggestion is not a valid answer to a configuration/troubleshooting question." - Timelmer

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                      • dforrestc
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 227
                        • St. Vincent and the Grenadines
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        Back to the originak question in this thread. So all of this marvelous stock cannot be used on any particular route. Am I correct?

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                        • oper190
                          1000 Post Veteran



                          • May 2010
                          • 1498
                          • Port Charlotte, FL
                          • English
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Per say, it's your Train Sim World, so you can run anything anywhere you like. Nothing is stopping you from using them on other routes if you want to.
                          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                          • dforrestc
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 227
                            • St. Vincent and the Grenadines
                            • ORTS

                            #14
                            oper190, your post does not address my question. Of course I can run them wherever I want but I want to run them on an authentic Russian route. Surely that author of the stock had a route in mind when he prepared the stock!

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                            • eric
                              9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                              • Dec 2002
                              • 9583
                              • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                              • English, SQL
                              • General

                              #15
                              I suspect the uploader is trying to lifeboat some stock from a defunct website. Let's see if a route materializes.

                              If anyone has a Soviet or Russian route to share, by all means feel free to do so.
                              If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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