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  • charland
    3000 Post Veteran


    • Dec 2006
    • 3107
    • Brockville, ON, CA
    • General

    #1

    CRKB_FJG Route

    Name of Route: Conrail Kellog Branch_Fonda Johnstown and Gloversville

    Version and Release Date: v1 October 1 2023

    Description: Version 1 October 1 2023

    Installation Method: Self-extracting exe

    Size of Download: 430 MB total.

    Size of Installed Route: 488 MB combined.

    Prototypical Operations; Mainline, Branch, Switching: Yes, yes, and yes.

    Freight or Passenger: Both

    Era or Genre: Mid-1970s

    Location: Upstate New York

    Length of Mainline: CR Mainline 23 miles
    CR Kellog Branch 2.7 miles
    FJ&G Mainline 20 miles

    Number of Sidings: Several.

    Number of Yards: Two medium, several smaller.

    Conrail double track main. Conrail Kellog Branch and FJ&G single track.

    Level of Trackside Detail: High

    Percentage of Scenery Completed: 100%

    FPS Specs, with qualifiers: Mid-teens in heavily populated areas, mid-fifties out in the country,
    will depend on your settings in Open Rails.

    Activities Provided: 4 Amtrak and 11 Conrail Mohawk Sub activities. 9 Conrail and 9 FJ&G activities.
    A total of over 130 hours of activities.

    Non-Default Consists or Rolling Stock Required in Activities: Yes, see required rolling stock list.

    Add-In Track Sets: Have no idea what this would be.

    Xtracks Required?, Version: v3.2

    Newroads Required?, Version: v4.0

    Tsection.dat Build: build_38

    Payware or Freeware: Freeware Only, NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE.. Custom objects restricted use. Free as a bird.

    URL for More Information and Screenshots: Trainsim forum screenshots

    Known Problems: Not really.

    Where it can be downloaded: Trainsim.com

    Extra information: Ask on Trainsim forum

    Designer's e-mail for more info: pcharland@cogeco.ca​
  • magmateus
    Senior Member

    • May 2010
    • 303
    • Oporto - Portugal

    #2
    Hi Paul:
    Another gift for fans of MSTS.
    Thank you very much.
    Best regards.
    Mateus

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    • charland
      3000 Post Veteran


      • Dec 2006
      • 3107
      • Brockville, ON, CA
      • General

      #3
      Gift for the fans of Open Rails, there are two tiles that exceed the 1500 object limit, so it won't open in MSTS.

      Paul :-)

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      • R. Steele
        3500 Post Veteran

        • Feb 2013
        • 3928
        • known universe
        • ORTS

        #4
        Paul, If the Route will not open in MSTS --- to avoid more questions and problems --- I'm going to move the route to the Open Rails / ROUTES section of the File library, if that's agreeable to you.
        Gerry
        Cheers, Gerry
        "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
        It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
        Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
        Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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        • charland
          3000 Post Veteran


          • Dec 2006
          • 3107
          • Brockville, ON, CA
          • General

          #5
          Sure, go ahead and move it.

          Paul :-)

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          • eric
            9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



            • Dec 2002
            • 9583
            • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
            • English, SQL
            • General

            #6
            I know 1500 was a goal in MSTS, but can someone verify if it indeed fails in MSTS? I had a couple 2000 object tiles in the CNW Chicago which still loaded because most of the shapes were low poly counts.
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            • charland
              3000 Post Veteran


              • Dec 2006
              • 3107
              • Brockville, ON, CA
              • General

              #7
              When I added a few objects to the tile in Amsterdam and it went over the 1500 object limit by just a few MSTS would not open the tile. This was also my starting tile at the time. Had no trouble opening it in Route Editor, just not able to open an activity but now that you ask, maybe that was a problem with the cabview ace file being 1064 and not 512. I'll do a test and let you know.

              Paul :-)

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              • charland
                3000 Post Veteran


                • Dec 2006
                • 3107
                • Brockville, ON, CA
                • General

                #8
                Hi Eric,

                Just ran a test on the route and ran in MSTS. The starting tile was one tile away from a tile with 1729 objects on it. I used a GE 44 tonner with a small cabview file and it did run through the 1729 tile. Oddly enough, it went bast a grade crossing with gates and the gates were flying up and down. So yes, the route and your route would run in MSTS but... anyone using power with a more modern cabview that used larger 1064x ace files would not be able to open the route, that appears to be the limit and not the number of objects on a tile.

                Paul :-)

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                • eric
                  9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9583
                  • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                  • English, SQL
                  • General

                  #9
                  I'd think that texture resolution would blow up a lot of routes that otherwise work...
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                  • charland
                    3000 Post Veteran


                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3107
                    • Brockville, ON, CA
                    • General

                    #10
                    I think this is the first time I posted a route that I never tested in MSTS. I just assumed that people no longer really used MSTS and had moved on to OR. I still build routes 100% in the old MSTS Route Editor, and create activities in MSTS but all the testing is done in OR (or really in ORNYMG) these days.

                    Paul :-)

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                    • tlowe
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 30
                      • Oregon, US
                      • General

                      #11
                      Hi Paul, I am very interested in running this route. The instructions indicate there is a required rolling stock list included. I cannot find it in any of the files I have checked. Thanks, Tim L

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                      • charland
                        3000 Post Veteran


                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3107
                        • Brockville, ON, CA
                        • General

                        #12
                        Hi Tim,

                        Sorry I didn't mention where, open the Activities folder and it's down at the bottom.

                        Paul :-)

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                        • tlowe
                          Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 30
                          • Oregon, US
                          • General

                          #13
                          Thanks, I guess I need a new pair of eyes. Getting older is not that much fun. Tim

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                          • charland
                            3000 Post Veteran


                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3107
                            • Brockville, ON, CA
                            • General

                            #14
                            I usually mention that in the readme, just missed it this time.

                            Paul :-)

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                            • magmateus
                              Senior Member

                              • May 2010
                              • 303
                              • Oporto - Portugal

                              #15
                              Originally posted by charland
                              Hi Eric,

                              Just ran a test on the route and ran in MSTS. The starting tile was one tile away from a tile with 1729 objects on it. I used a GE 44 tonner with a small cabview file and it did run through the 1729 tile. Oddly enough, it went bast a grade crossing with gates and the gates were flying up and down. So yes, the route and your route would run in MSTS but... anyone using power with a more modern cabview that used larger 1064x ace files would not be able to open the route, that appears to be the limit and not the number of objects on a tile.

                              Paul :-)
                              Thank you for the information, Paul.
                              Regards.
                              Mateus

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