A lot of major east coast routes missing or am I searching incorrectly?

[DimPoint]

The NEC from Penn Station to DC and also Philadelphia to Pittsburgh I have, and then there is the Metro North. I have seen talks in regards to routes in Maine and Vermont. New York Central only has the portion near Corning completed to the East-West Syracuse division.

There is no trace of the New York Central west shore route from NJ to Albany. There is just one scenery object relating to the New York Central's West Shore Line when I do the search.

From what I have seen, there is little to nothing of Lackawanna or Erie Lackawanna main line.

Reading's line from Reading to Philadelphia exists in the "PRR East Coast" route, but the north bound Reading's routes are no where to be seen.

Lehigh Valley route is there (says something about Scalerail which is something I do not know as to what it is), but according to the ReadMe.txt it says it needs the default route files of MSTS to work (which I do not have) as it says it copies a lot of things from those default routes. Thus there is no OR version of Lehigh Valley, or I might be wrong.

Are my assumptions correct as they are not there, or am I searching incorrectly and they are there?

[CSRX]

The Vermont and Maine based routes that I've been working on for a few years, probably will never be released, as I haven't don't much. I've lost interest in releasing and doing items for what little is left of this community.

Searching on here seems to be a hit or miss however lately for the library. Sometimes the results come through, other times they seem to not. It's and odd duck for sure. It's probably why my latest releases have become dead in the water with less than 100 downloads. That, or the interest just really isn't there anymore.

[DimPoint]

@CSRX
I don't want to make you feel bad, but i don't think many people are interested in Vermont or Maine RRs that much. If you think about the most downloaded, they usually are the big rail road names, like NYC, PRR, IC, NH, ect. There are exceptions like "Bangor and Aroostok", Vermont Central, or Rutland. By the way, I do not see Rutland or "Bangor and Arrostok" in the search either. I want Rutland and "Bangor and Aroostok" too.

This community could be revived however, my idea would require a lot work for this project in the back end of the website. What Open Source license does OR use? The community is not dead or dying yet, so I do not know what you mean when you say "what little is left of this community".

As for the search system, I read a post somewhere that people have suggested to Eric to upgrade the search system to something much better.

[CSRX]

Weird how you say there isn't interest, but then say you'd be interested in Rutland or Bangor & Aroostook.....
Which personally, Rutland based route is what I've been tinkering on via as Vermont Rail System..

And this community is honestly a far cry from what it used to be. There used to be a ton more contributors that have left for various reasons.
Some have gone for good, others create things for a small group of friends, and others just lurk and share pictures every now and then. You missed the hey-day of this once very thriving community, which is personally why I've closed down my own projects and moved forward to other things.

Besides, you said it. No interest in Maine or Vermont......

There are a few New England routes available. Most are extremely dated and or not realistic.
The best one available is Paul Charlands Central Vermont route which runs from White River Jct to Brattleboro.

There was an MMA route, which last time I ran it was a very long time ago, very dated and lacked a lot of scenery and I don't believe used the correct dems for the terrain.

There are also a bunch of Boston & Maine routes, but none of them have proper terrain, or scenery. They are great for someone that doesn't live in the area, so they wouldn't really know the difference, but to someone who does, the issues are very glaring.

I believe there is a cape cod or New Haven based route, not really sure there. And I believe there was at one point an unfinished MBTA route.

Personally I've been tinkering on the Rutland/VRS route, as well as a Maine Central route based between Portland, ME and St. Johnsbury, VT.
Had plans for some others based on the B&M and MEC lines.
Working on a Eastern Maine Railway route too based between Brownville Jct, ME and McAdam, NB, but that would be a personal route in the end as it uses a lot of payware scenery items... Though as mentioned, none of them will probably ever be released at this point... Lack of interest, lack of time, lack of caring..

[landnrailroader]

MSTS first came out in 2001, and we are still trying to get it to run on modern operating systems like Win-10/11. Personally, having run a few trains in 1ft.=1ft. scale, the newer programs just do not cut it in terms of physics but are easier to create routes for. I have given up on getting MSTS/RE to work on my upgraded to Win-10 system, probably because of outdated DivX material. I will keep it on an ancient Win-XP machine because it is more accurate and easier to adjust terrain to track or roads. The shaping method in TSRE5 makes no sense to me and from what I read in the forums it is an issue for many. Then there is the issue of preferences. I have done the Kingsport and Blue Ridge Subdivisions, as well as the Hook & Eye line and they are "eastern", well southeastern routes and are in the library. I have some other routes under "construction" that cover most of the coal fields in Eastern Ky as well as the L&N main stem from Louisville to Nashville and the "J" line from Nashville to Chattanooga. I've also done several Milwaukee Road routes out west and have more in the works. So it is a matter of preference. I have no interest at all in northeastern routes, or NYC, but it is great that others do.

As for dwindling ranks. Unfortunately that is a fact of life for many groups besides ours. Masonic Lodges, Churches, Museums and many more all are seeing a dwindling of interest. I belong to the "Friends of the Cumbres & Toltec--" and next week I will travel to Chama, NM to work as a docent on the train for as many trips as I can in 9 days. So far that group is growing slowly, and since I may not be able to continue as a docent much longer, I have joined with a group in the "Friends" that is creating education material for young folks in a hope of getting them ready to be the next generation. I've personally indoctrinated my 4 grandchildren and my 3 great-grandchildren.

Jerry Sullivan, P.E. (retired)
docent: C&TS RR

[eric]

The Lackawanna and Lehigh Valley are a project underway as TriState Rails.

The NYCRR hasn't had a lot of attention outside of some adjacent trackage.


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[DimPoint]

Is there a page or group specifically for the TriState Rails project? How do I reach that page?

[DimPoint]

Nooo. Please don't go... please release Rutland.

[eric]

And this community is honestly a far cry from what it used to be. There used to be a ton more contributors that have left for various reasons.
Some have gone for good, others create things for a small group of friends, and others just lurk and share pictures every now and then. You missed the hey-day of this once very thriving community, which is personally why I've closed down my own projects and moved forward to other things..

And yet, we still have a number of active route builders, a handful of model builders and a few reskinners plus a couple payware providers who still turn out new material.

I'd hate to lose your talent, but we all need a break eventually. And we need to encourage those just starting out to learn how to create content...

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[CSRX]

And yet, we still have a number of active route builders, a handful of model builders and a few reskinners plus a couple payware providers who still turn out new material.

I'd hate to lose your talent, but we all need a break eventually. And we need to encourage those just starting out to learn how to create content...

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I mean, I get that, don't get me wrong, just saying in general there was a boat load more folks that contributed in one way or another compared to now.

Trainsimulations and a select few freeware creators are the only reason I still stick around, even if I am no longer making content myself.

[DimPoint]

The Lackawanna and Lehigh Valley are a project underway as TriState Rails.

The NYCRR hasn't had a lot of attention outside of some adjacent trackage.


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Hello Eric, I am reaching out to you again as you have not answered my question.

Is there a page or group specifically for the TriState Rails project? How do I reach that page or contact the group?

[eric]

It's not my project, so can't give the answer. I only know of its existence because Doug posts about it occasionally. Try searching "Tristate" in the forums search, you'll get other threads to peruse.

[DimPoint]

I tried contacting @drelyea , but have not received a response back from them yet.