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  • CSRX
    13500 Post Veteran



    • Oct 2005
    • 13646
    • Lincoln, ME
    • English
    • ORTS

    #1

    Possible route projects and interests

    I wanted to write this, as my interest in ORTS has been dwindling down a lot lately, to the point I don't even touch the sim or anything related to it for a solid two or three weeks..

    I have a few route projects I have been messing with, and my questions are basically simple. Would there be of any interest with any of these? Sometimes a little encouragement goes a long way.

    1. Maine Central Mountain Division - Runs from Portland, ME to St. Johnsbury, VT. Based in the 1978-1981 era before the Guilford buyout and eventual closure of the line. At the moment I have the tracks laid out to Hiram. With some scenery scattered here and there. It would be freeware, as that is what I started with on adding for scenery objects. I have been messing with this route for many years, and even scrapped it at one point until Sean was kind enough to make a whole new set up for me with all new dems and distant mountains. I keep putting it on the back burner because I feel like, being a New England route, not a whole lot of people would even want to run the line, especially considering only two trains per 24 hours.. on the mainline that is. Doesn't include the two locals and several yard jobs in the Portland and St. Johnsbury area..

    2. Guilford Rail Systems Hinkley Branch - Runs between Waterville, ME and Skowehegan, ME. Would be based in the 2008-2012 era, simply 10 miles long and basically serves one customer, a paper mill, with one job, that runs from Waterville to the mill, switches the mill, and returns. Basically this would just be a simple route with freeware intentions.

    3. Eastern Maine Railways Mattawamkeag Sub - Runs between Brownville Jct, ME and McAdam, NB. Based in the 2020-2022 era. At the moment I have been using payware objects for trees and other scenery details, but I can't imagine it would be too hard to replace with freeware items. Then again, I don't think much interest would be desired, maybe if it was based in the 1980's with Canadian Pacific as the operator, and much more sidings.. if I stick to payware objects due to lack of interest, it would be a private route between myself and the fine folks of Trainsimulations, as it's their objects I'd use and currently using.

    4. Maine Northern Railways Milliknocket and Madawaska Sub - Runs from Brownville Jct, ME to Madawaska, ME and would include several branches. Would be based in the 2020-2022 era, however this would be a huge challange, as the mainline alone is 200+ miles, not including the branchlines.. Not sure if I would attempt it as freeware, or use payware objects and be private between myself and the fine folks of Trainsimulations, as it would be their objects I'd be using. However this would grant a lot of different mainline trains between several locations, and a few locals serving the customers along the branchlines.

    5. Guilford Rail System District 1 - Runs from Mattawamkeag, ME to Portland ME. Would be based in the 2008-2012 era. Would be another challenge as it would also be 200 miles, not including the several branch lines that are currently active, and were active at the time, Brunswick Branch, Rumford Branch, Augusta Running Track, Madison Branch, Hinckley Branch, and Bucksport Branch. Most likely would be freeware, but with lack of interest, I'd probably go payware items and as same as above..

    6. Canadian Pacific's D&H Canadian Mainline - Runs from Albany, NY to Montreal, Canada, would be based in the 2018-2019 era. Would include the Glens Falls Branch. May or may not even attempt to start this line. If I do, it would be payware in hopes of it being a Trainsimulations release, but honestly, I have self doubtness, so I don't want to start and fail.

    7. Vermont Rail System - This would be the entire route subs from Whitehall, NY to Bellows Falls, VT and Burlington, VT to Hoosick Jct, NY all via Rutland, which would be the CLP Whitehall Sub, GMRC Bellows Falls Sub, VTR Northern Sub, VTR B&R Sub, and VTR Hoosick Branch. Would be based in the 2019-2022 era. Freeware, as I did start it with freeware items out of Whitehall, NY towards Rutland.

    8. Pan Am Southerns Patriot Corridor - Runs from Ayer, MA to Rotterdam Jct, NY. Based in the 2018-2023 era, and much like the CP line, would be payware based in hopes of a Trainsimulations release..


    There are a few other routes I'd love to start or have interest in.. but I'll leave it as these for now.. it's a bit much honestly.. Probably none will ever see the light of day.

    If there are folks with decent knowledge on TSRE and route editing, that's willing to give a hand to any of these routes. I'll be willing to do that too, I got track/grade charts I can work with for track work, basic roads and basic bridges, if that helps.
    Last edited by CSRX; 06-06-2023, 21:09.
    -Shawn K-
    MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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  • pnrailway
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2004
    • 397
    • Sarasota, FL
    • ORTS

    #2
    Shawn,

    I would love to see the Vermont Rail system at least. Some of the others seem interesting as well. You at one point had sent me an early version of your mountain division. Lost it in a computer crash.
    Paul

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    • eric
      9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



      • Dec 2002
      • 9583
      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
      • English, SQL
      • General

      #3
      I like some of these smaller routes because I have so little time, and also because switching out a small footprint is a good challenge.

      Your paper mill sounds great for that.
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      • jdonald1
        Member

        • May 2010
        • 94
        • Corunna ON
        • English
        • MSOR

        #4
        Numbers 3 to 7 inclusive would interest me.

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        • motormaster532
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 465
          • New York

          #5
          Shawn, I would have an interest in these Route ideas that you are exploring. Even though the vast majority of my "empire" is out west, I would have no problem with any or all of your concepts. The D&H Route would dovetail perfectly with the Maple Leaf Tracks Route,as well as 7 and 8. As for 1 thru 5, I wouldn't be discouraged by the lack of "real" traffic or a parochial bias! Since I have fictionalized my entire "system" so that I can use many otherwise disconnected Routes in my Railroads{some,but not many seams between them!}I could very easily absorb what you are thinking about. I,or anybody else could create Activities that could increase Traffic on some of the more marginal lines that you propose. The great thing about this hobby is that one is not strait-jacketed into doing what is "real". Whatever works for a person is fine. People sometimes get pigeon-holed into re-creating something in the real world that already exists, I like to go my own way{within reason}. Another question{You DO NOT have to answer it!!!} is why Open Rails has lost much of its appeal to you. You have done SO much to this community and I for one am thankful for it. Take Care. Brian

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          • CSRX
            13500 Post Veteran



            • Oct 2005
            • 13646
            • Lincoln, ME
            • English
            • ORTS

            #6
            Honestly, with working with the real deal for the past 7 years, I've seen enough of trains. I hardly go out and explore or chase trains as well due to it. That and the community has seemed to have dropped off a lot, with so many that have left the community completely.

            Some of the routes mentioned I sort of had plans to use for my fictional route, Western Maine Rail Company, mostly the MEC Mountain Division, Hinckley Branch and District 1.

            But time will tell. If anything I would like to hammer out that 10 mile route just for the heck of it.
            -Shawn K-
            MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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            • motormaster532
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 465
              • New York

              #7
              Originally posted by CSRX
              Honestly, with working with the real deal for the past 7 years, I've seen enough of trains. I hardly go out and explore or chase trains as well due to it. That and the community has seemed to have dropped off a lot, with so many that have left the community completely.

              Some of the routes mentioned I sort of had plans to use for my fictional route, Western Maine Rail Company, mostly the MEC Mountain Division, Hinckley Branch and District 1.

              But time will tell. If anything I would like to hammer out that 10 mile route just for the heck of it.
              I completely understand what you are saying! I retired after a 33 year career and the last thing that I wanted was to have to worry about "realism". Do not misunderstand me! I run my stuff to rule{most of the time!} but I dont care whether I hit a signal,exceed posted speed a little or even whether my consists fit into a realistic pattern. I fictionalized EVERYTHING to get away from all that. Working freight[as you do} will take the railroad urge out of anybody and as for the community attrition, I dont know what can be done to reverse that. Getting new blood is more easily said then done because I believe interest has declined due to changing demographics as well as a lull in the creation of new things on the North American side. On a serious and important side,PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!! Railroading is,has been and will be a VERY DANGEROUS vocation. From a retired Engineer, Brian

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              • CSRX
                13500 Post Veteran



                • Oct 2005
                • 13646
                • Lincoln, ME
                • English
                • ORTS

                #8
                Now the question sticks in my mind.


                Use of ScaleRail, the default nonsense with x tracks, or attempt with US3/DB tracks.

                I love the look of US3/DB tracks with built in berms, but the limitations on pieces ruin the experience for me there.

                ScaleRail is now made available here in the library, so a little easier to deal with for me and the end users.

                Default/X tracks, I can use some beat up looking textures to capture the look best for old low maintenance lines such at the Maine Central and Guilford lines, as ScaleRail and US/DB tracks would be far too clean and neat to resemble anything on those lines. Haha.

                Even using ScaleRail on my Eastern Maine Railway route seems a bit of a stretch as it's not that neat and clean, and beat up in spots, as it's all stick rail versus welded rail.
                -Shawn K-
                MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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                • eric
                  9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9583
                  • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                  • English, SQL
                  • General

                  #9
                  Scalerail. I've got berms for most SR shapes in Grey if that's important and you can swap or recolor the texture for something more fitting.

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