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  • email4butch
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    • Oct 2025
    • 28
    • Weeki Wachee, Florida
    • ORTS

    #16
    Hey Pete;
    Yea, now that makes sense. I was looking at my reskins of the LNE580 and Paul's B&M C17 and realized this morning that they're the same models. (I'm a little late to this party for sure.) The only difference is the number of windows, which can be added or removed with whatever textures you do.
    Now the LNE file has a jumbled "S" file so when you open it with notepad, the data is jumbled and unreadable.
    On Paul's C17 "S" File and the Conrail "S" File I just downloaded, you can read the "S" file with notepad. This will come in handy later on when i package up these up.
    So if Paul has the TSM files for the C-17 he redressed, that would be great and maybe I could do something from there.
    I downloaded a copy of Amabilis 3DCrafter so I'm definitely further down this rabbit hole. If I ever get to the point where I can remove the cupola, I'll make sure I package the files up for downloading.

    ~Butch

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    • pwillard
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      • Nov 1999
      • 3070
      • Cumming Ga
      • ORTS

      #17
      "Jumbled" S files are in the MSTS compressed format... You would need to uncompress it with MSTS tools (ffeditc_unicode.exe) or with a tool like FFEDIT_SubV1.2 from the file library to make "internal" changes, such as texture references.
      http://www.railsimstuff.com
      Just Blender now, 3DCrafter only when I have to.
      Formerly The Keystone Works (All Permissions Granted)
      Things I work on: https://github.com/pwillard

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      • email4butch
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        • Oct 2025
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        • Weeki Wachee, Florida
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        #18
        Pete;
        You read my mind. I had found the "un-jumbled" S file for a box car and noticed that you could change the graphic designation. I was wondering how to fix that! Thank you!

        ~Butch

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        • charland
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          • Dec 2006
          • 3107
          • Brockville, ON, CA
          • General

          #19
          The C-17 model I posted was just a repaint of someone else' model, I don't have the source files. I can send you the TSM files for the D&H set I made that's close to the B&M buggy. About the only serious thing I can see would be to move the two side windows up to close to the eaves. This is pretty easy in TSM, just need to go into points mode and select the point around the windows and move them up, then do the same with the glazing. The rest is just adding the B&M textures.

          PM me if that's what you want to do.

          Paul :-)

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          • pwillard
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            • Nov 1999
            • 3070
            • Cumming Ga
            • ORTS

            #20
            Of course, at this point, using a Larry Goss model seems a bit sad, because it's rather old and follows older MSTS standards, so maybe somebody will step up and make a modern one with better details. (Or not... if its good enough)
            http://www.railsimstuff.com
            Just Blender now, 3DCrafter only when I have to.
            Formerly The Keystone Works (All Permissions Granted)
            Things I work on: https://github.com/pwillard

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            • email4butch
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              • Oct 2025
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              #21
              Hi Paul;
              Yes, I sent you a PM.
              Thank you,
              ~Butch

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              • email4butch
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                • Oct 2025
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                #22
                Hey Pete;
                So I was trying to get "caught up" on some questions and that was one of them. From what I researched here in this group, Larry Goss hasn't been active in this group in years. He appears to have modelled most of the freight, and I am presuming it was freight for MSTS. (I say that as they appear to be somewhat blurred when I run them in my ORTS.)

                I have found 3 formats for boxcars.
                1- There's what I call the blanket where there is one graphic for the freight. It covers everything on one "sheet". The graphic is 512x512 and those appear fuzzy and blurred on the letters when I run them without modifications. These appear to be made for MSTS. These are boxcars from Larry Goss.
                2- There's the blanket with extras which is one graphic for the body of the freight with several for the wheels and couplers. This type came with Open Rails when I downloaded it. The main graphic is 1024x1024 where engines are 2048x2048. These are crystal and have pretty crisp lettering.
                3- And there's the multiple plus more where there's a small graphic for the sides, another for the ends, and then it continues with the graphics for each detail. I have a hard time reading the lettering when I load these into my Open Rails. The hardest part is seeing the boxcar doors. They blend into the model. These I don't use in my open Rails. If I need and want that road name, I'll copy the side over to the 1st format and increase the graphic to 1024x1024 and save them in dds format.

                So I'm presuming that everyone is just using the Larry Goss model, for the most part.
                ~Butch

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                • pwillard
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                  • Nov 1999
                  • 3070
                  • Cumming Ga
                  • ORTS

                  #23
                  One example of the Goss models became the de facto standard for the 40 ft box car, so it was heavily re-skinned.
                  http://www.railsimstuff.com
                  Just Blender now, 3DCrafter only when I have to.
                  Formerly The Keystone Works (All Permissions Granted)
                  Things I work on: https://github.com/pwillard

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                  • charland
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3107
                    • Brockville, ON, CA
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                    #24
                    Morning Butch,

                    Did you get my email yesterday with the zip file or did your ISP put it in a spam folder?

                    Paul:-)

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                    • email4butch
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                      • Oct 2025
                      • 28
                      • Weeki Wachee, Florida
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                      #25
                      Hi Paul;
                      Yes, I got the files. Sorry I didn't get back to you.
                      Thank you,
                      ~Butch

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                      • charland
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3107
                        • Brockville, ON, CA
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                        #26
                        Just wanted to make sure you got the file Butch, wouldn't be the first time email disappeared on me!

                        Paul :-)

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                        • email4butch
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                          • Oct 2025
                          • 28
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                          #27
                          cover.jpg Thank you very much Paul!!!!

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                          • charland
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3107
                            • Brockville, ON, CA
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                            #28
                            You're welcome, it was a nice distraction for a couple of days!

                            Paul :-)

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