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  • slipperman
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    • May 2010
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    • Worksop, UK
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    #31
    Hi yellowdog,
    Yes, I am looking at it from the viewpoint of a new-comer or inexperienced user. For experienced users, there's no problem.
    As time goes on, we will need soundsets and cabview files which don't depend on MSTS default stock.

    Cheers,
    Ged


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    • CSRX
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      • Oct 2005
      • 13646
      • Lincoln, ME
      • English
      • ORTS

      #32
      For the record, I get Ron's sounds to work just fine in the common.snd folders. It takes a little extra effort, but they do work in the long run. I use his sounds a lot for a mix and match with GP38-2's in my consists, all of which have been successfully installed in the common.snd folder, and aliased properly.

      However, for these fine CSXT locomotives being released, I simply use the sounds from the TS Conrail Second Gen set.


      inside my Common.SND folder are the following folders.
      "rf_gp9_sound"
      "rf_gp38_sound_set_a"
      "rf_gp38_sound_set_b"
      "rf_u23b_sound"

      Inside each of those folders is simply another "SOUND" folder.

      And, for example, of my alias system, for a pair of GP38-2's, on my fictional KERC line, they are set up as follows.

      "..//..//Common.Snd//rf_gp38_sound_set_a//SOUND//RF_GP38engA.sms"
      "..//..//Common.Snd//rf_gp38_sound_set_a//SOUND//RF_GP38CabA.sms"

      The other unit is similar but uses the "b" set.

      I understand this isn't exactly how Ron desired them to be installed, but it beats having a sound set in every single engine folder..
      Last edited by CSRX; 01-23-2024, 17:11.
      -Shawn K-
      MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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      • yellowdog
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        • Nov 1999
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        #33
        Originally posted by slipperman
        Hi yellowdog,
        Yes, I am looking at it from the viewpoint of a new-comer or inexperienced user. For experienced users, there's no problem.
        As time goes on, we will need soundsets and cabview files which don't depend on MSTS default stock.

        Cheers,
        Ged

        I don't disagree with you at all. I just think that regardless of what I put in the eng file, there's a high likelihood that it's simply a placeholder that will need to be changed on the user's end. I don't really know how to address that in the installation readme.

        Shawn--I have a similar set up on my end, with a huge mishmash. I also have different versions of the same model pointing to different sounds, just to get some variability in-game (i.e. various SD40 models pointing to different 645-E3 soundsets), because I know not every loco performs/sounds/etc exactly like another one, even of the same model.

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        • R. Steele
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          • Feb 2013
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          #34
          Originally posted by CSRX
          For the record, I get Ron's sounds to work just fine in the common.snd folders
          Yup, same here. I wish he had made sounds for the Alco RS3, any good substitutes for the 244? ( kinda off topic, but thought I'd ask )
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          • CSRX
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            • Oct 2005
            • 13646
            • Lincoln, ME
            • English
            • ORTS

            #35
            Originally posted by R. Steele
            Yup, same here. I wish he had made sounds for the Alco RS3, any good substitutes for the 244? ( kinda off topic, but thought I'd ask )
            I've found that BLW has the best sounds for 244. I think MLW did some, but I can't seem to find those anymore.
            -Shawn K-
            MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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            • yellowdog
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              • Nov 1999
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              #36
              I have 244 sounds from CLW (possibly confused with MLW?). I'm not sure exactly where they came from--I don't see them directly on their website. And then there's this replacement set that somebody else made who apparently didn't like the CLW sounds (which indicates the CLW sounds may have been included with the PA/PB set):

              alcosnd.zip

              Otherwise, I agree--the BLW sounds are great.

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              • CSRX
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                • Oct 2005
                • 13646
                • Lincoln, ME
                • English
                • ORTS

                #37
                Originally posted by yellowdog
                I have 244 sounds from CLW (possibly confused with MLW?). I'm not sure exactly where they came from--I don't see them directly on their website. And then there's this replacement set that somebody else made who apparently didn't like the CLW sounds (which indicates the CLW sounds may have been included with the PA/PB set):

                alcosnd.zip

                Otherwise, I agree--the BLW sounds are great.
                Nah, Anthony of MLW was at the time making a lot of different sound sets, and I do recall he had a 244 set as well. Maybe he never officially released it, and it was a beta form I was testing and have since lost. Eventually he moved in from MSTS/ORTS, and all we have is the 645, 710 and GE sounds of his.

                I forget about CLW having sound sets, but I don't remember using them much if at all as most of time I just used the BLW ones.

                -Shawn K-
                MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
                ​

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                • yellowdog
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                  • Nov 1999
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                  #38
                  8325 is still pending approval, apparently. I just uploaded 8301. It's in "blue stripe" livery, a variation of the blue and grey scheme that CSX experimented with for a little while before settling on the Grey Ghost scheme, pre-YN2. I set this one up to use the sms files that Tyler Bundy originally included with his models, so at least it's consistent with his original readme.

                  8301.jpg

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                  • Unoriginal
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                    • Jan 2021
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                    #39
                    I actually wonder if that scheme has any particular name. I just refer to them as "stealth blue" so I don't confuse it with the actual all grey stealth paints. Either way can't wait to see more of your csx stuff.


                    Originally posted by CSRX
                    Nah, Anthony of MLW was at the time making a lot of different sound sets, and I do recall he had a 244 set as well. Maybe he never officially released it, and it was a beta form I was testing and have since lost.
                    ​
                    Could ask him about this if you'd like.

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                    • Lonewolf2777
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                      • Feb 2005
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                      #40
                      waiting for some more red blocks being made CSX had a few other then the GP38 that is on fl on here

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                      • rrdiesel87
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                        • Mar 2007
                        • 372
                        • Hanover, PA
                        • General

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unoriginal
                        I actually wonder if that scheme has any particular name. I just refer to them as "stealth blue" so I don't confuse it with the actual all grey stealth paints. Either way can't wait to see more of your csx stuff.



                        ​
                        Could ask him about this if you'd like.
                        I've heard it called both "S" and "Black Down", I personally just refer to it as the Phase 2 scheme
                        Andrew Collins

                        CSX Sand Patch Grade for ORTS (65%)

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                        • rrdiesel87
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 372
                          • Hanover, PA
                          • General

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Lonewolf2777
                          waiting for some more red blocks being made CSX had a few other then the GP38 that is on fl on here
                          I have 8428 done...the only SD unit to receive OLS/Redblock paint. It will likely make its way in to Sand Patch eventually.
                          437.jpg
                          Andrew Collins

                          CSX Sand Patch Grade for ORTS (65%)

                          www.youtube.com/@rrdiesel87
                          www.trainsimulations.net

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                          • yellowdog
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                            • Nov 1999
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                            #43
                            The grey and blue schemes have a couple of different names, but I don't know if any of them are official. There's the Blue Down, which is grey long hood, blue on the cab, and then blue trucks/fuel tank (like my 4606 and 8325 repaints). And then Blue Stripe, which is grey long hood, blue on the cab, blue stripe around the base of the unit, and then grey sills and black undercarriage (like my 8301 repaint). Although there are variations on these, too, with different things painted black, blue, or grey. I think these are all railfan designations, though. I have a vague memory of these also being referred to as Mason-Dixon schemes (North being blue, South being grey, and CSX linking the 2 geographical regions). I just call them all Blue for simplicity. Other variants include the CSX Transportation and RedBlock schemes.

                            Looking great, Andrew! Do you have the ability to have this component removed?
                            437.jpg

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                            • rrdiesel87
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 372
                              • Hanover, PA
                              • General

                              #44
                              Yes, as it sits now, it is just the main textures that have been completed, any shape revisions would be done in the final stages of development.
                              Andrew Collins

                              CSX Sand Patch Grade for ORTS (65%)

                              www.youtube.com/@rrdiesel87
                              www.trainsimulations.net

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                              • Unoriginal
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                                • Jan 2021
                                • 406
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                                #45
                                I use this for finding paint schemes, though it's kind of outdated since it doesn't include anything post YN3B. http://www.trainweb.org/csxphotos/schemes_csx.htm

                                Originally posted by rrdiesel87
                                I have 8428 done...the only SD unit to receive OLS/Redblock paint. It will likely make its way in to Sand Patch eventually.
                                437.jpg
                                Is there any reason this unit has "baltimore division" under the csx logo?

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