Leister Locomotive Works Project Thread

[Fish4890]

Appreciate the plug for the paid memberships... fine to include in the ReadMe but I'd appreciate not having it in the description, as people might gey confused and think it's only for paid members.

oh i am Sorry i like to be respectful but gotta do what you said

[Fish4890]

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NORFOLK SOUTHERN SD70IACs Are NEXT

[qballbandit]

These two NS sets - are there any physical external differences in the rebuilds, or is it all internal?

[Fish4890]

These two NS sets - are there any physical external differences in the rebuilds, or is it all internal?

tbh if its Progress Rail Probably Prime Movers and or EMD 710 Motor
Internal thats Possible

[Fish4890]

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*** 9 or 10 Locomotives of the IAC UNIT PACK***

IAC Stands for Individual Axle Controll

1225-1234 From EMDX as i should rephrase Former Eletromotive Division SD70ACe's

[CSRX]

Well, obviously research still lacks here..

Info on what was changed on the SD70ICC's that were rebuilt from SD70M-2's...

http://www.nsdash9.com/rosters/1250.html

Rebuilt from EMD SD70M-2 (DC traction) locomotive. Original cab and electrical cabinet were replaced with EMD SD70ACe isolated cab, widenose, AAR-style control stand, electrical cabinet with Mitsubishi electronics,
a new main alternator, and additional weight was added to increase the maximum weight to 432,000 pounds.

Existing trucks were rebuilt and new AC traction motors installed.

Equipped with IAC (Individual Axle Control) with one inverter per axle for
better overall control of tractive effort.

Equipped CCB II computer controlled braking system.

Equipped with PTC (Positive Train Control) system.

Equipped for use in DPU (Distributed Power Unit) operation.

Equipped with Automatic Engine Stop/Start

Equipped with air conditioning.

All units are equipped with an electric parking brake.

I imagine the cabinets on the side of the locomotive behind the conductors area, have been changed from the panels seen on the SD70M-2, to what is seen on the ACe's due to the differences between DC and AC traction..


And the changes/info on the SD70IAC's.

http://www.nsdash9.com/rosters/1175.html

All units are EPA Tier 4 credit units.
All units are equipped with air conditioning.
All units are equipped with an electric parking brake.
All units are equipped for use in DPU (Distributed Power Unit) operation.

All units are equipped with NS LEADER/PTC (Positive Train Control) system.
All units are equipped with IAC (Individual Axle Control) with one inverter per axle for
better overall control of tractive effort. Because of this, NS has designated the units as SD70IAC.
Units 1225-1234 were originally built in 2019 to NS specs, but for the Progress Rail lease fleet and were
painted in black and white with Progress Rail logos and lettering and numbered as EMDX 2115-2124. The units
were never used in revenue service before being acquired by NS. They were repainted by Progress Rail
and were delivered to NS in March 2022.

So both units, definitely have external differences as well as internal...

[qballbandit]

Ya, thanks Shawn. I asked because I wondered if Fish knew all of this, as well as I obviously would see no difference in the shape file. Just the numbers in the dds files are different.

[eric]

Good information to have before it's released.

[Fish4890]

Ya, thanks Shawn. I asked because I wondered if Fish knew all of this, as well as I obviously would see no difference in the shape file. Just the numbers in the dds files are different.

there aint no Diffrence in them on the body of the unit

[BrandonS261]

there aint no Diffrence in them on the body of the unit

There obviously are differences both interior and exterior from what Shawn has posted so what you are practically doing here is just repainting stuff that you say aw close enough and then releasing it when its not even close to the real locomotives! Then completely ignoring and getting upset when someone calls you out on stuff that is wrong! Hummm starting to wonder if you have even done any real research on the stuff you are repainting? Half of the effort of putting something out there is doing the research so you can do it right the first time so you do not have this issue.

I suggest next time you do your research before even attempting to release anything else.

Brandon

[Fish4890]

There obviously are differences both interior and exterior from what Shawn has posted so what you are practically doing here is just repainting stuff that you say aw close enough and then releasing it when its not even close to the real locomotives! Then completely ignoring and getting upset when someone calls you out on stuff that is wrong! Hummm starting to wonder if you have even done any real research on the stuff you are repainting? Half of the effort of putting something out there is doing the research so you can do it right the first time so you do not have this issue.

I suggest next time you do your research before even attempting to release anything else.

Brandon

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That lines up with this so its correct

Real research was done but people want to Screw with people and Ruin them

[eric]

Uh, no. We're adults here and nobody is trying to ruin anyone.

All they're trying to do is help you learn and avoid mistakes.

I can't really tell if the exterior of the IAC/ICC is different from the vanilla ACE, but there would definitely be some physics differences between weight and performance capabilities, which means not just a repaint but also new ENG parameters.

This is why I stick to route building.... nobody notices the fine details.

[BrandonS261]

I was not trying to be disrespectful to you at all and like Eric said we are only trying to help you!

Sure maybe I was a little harsh but you're I don't care what others think and I am going to do what I want attitude really doesn't fly around here on Trainsim.

Looking at past post that you have put up sure there are a few who are thankful for the repaints but when someone asks you a question about something concerning one of them you seem to get all defensive and take it as a negative when all we are trying to do is help you out so you can become better in the future!

Trust me I have been on the forums for years and I have taken my fair share of criticism for some of my projects but it has only made me better as a modeler and route builder.

Best of luck to you with your future projects and try to look at our criticism as a good thing!

Brandon

[rt35ge]

Uh, no. We're adults here and nobody is trying to ruin anyone.

All they're trying to do is help you learn and avoid mistakes.

I can't really tell if the exterior of the IAC/ICC is different from the vanilla ACE, but there would definitely be some physics differences between weight and performance capabilities, which means not just a repaint but also new ENG parameters.

This is why I stick to route building.... nobody notices the fine details.

I think it'll come down to this. He doesn't want to listen and plans on doing what he wants. Nothing wrong with that though it's a poor attitude on his part. People will either download his stuff or pass. That is something he does need to understand. People who are not impressed will pass. People will take a good look and see obvious flaws and pass. People will point it out to him. Some will do it out of spite to be mean. Research is only as good as the person doing it. Piss poor effort = piss poor product. I'm not going to repaint a SP SD40T-2 shape file as a D&RGW unit and try to tell people it's correct. Us D&RGW fans will spot it in a mili second.

[Unoriginal]

I’ve spoken to him on other platforms (the train sim community discord server), and this is just how he acts. If there’s a slight problem with someone or a product he’ll just complain about it being wrong or it being stupid without trying to do anything to fix it. I wish they didn’t act like this but someone people just don’t care I guess.