version of Open Rails OR_NewYear_MG replacement please?

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  • slipperman
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    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #16
    Hi Paul,
    Thank you.
    Yes, I only press ESC twice to get the textures to return.
    That confirms my suspicion (however unfounded!) that the problem of missing textures is not caused by a bug in Open Rails, but, very likely, by something in your setup.
    Have you been able to find a Game Mode or PC Mode option in the settings for your TV?

    Cheers,
    Ged

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    • pcohen
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      • Jul 2007
      • 1294
      • Wrexham North Wales UK

      #17
      Hi Ged.

      Cannot find anything in my TV settings, althoug not sure where to look.

      Thanks.

      Paul.

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      • slipperman
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        • May 2010
        • 3787
        • Worksop, UK
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        #18
        Hi Paul,
        I don't know what make and model TV you are using but my main TV is a Panasonic TX-32FS500B and, within its Picture settings, there is a 'Game' option. Obviously, I can't check if it works as I'm not using it as a monitor, but if your TV is a fairly recent model you may well find a similar setting - look under 'Menu', (maybe press the Menu button on your remote) then select 'Picture' and scroll down the list.

        Cheers,
        Ged

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        • pcohen
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          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #19
          Good Morning Ged.

          I have Found the Following: for my Panasonic TV-

          Viewing Mode SELECT GAME, Dynamic, Normal, Cinema, True Cinema.

          I have set this to GAME. Is this correct please?

          Meantime I will run the "How we were" Activity again and see what happens.

          Many thanks

          Paul.

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          • pcohen
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            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #20
            Hi Ged. hope your well today.

            Having changed TV Settings (USED AS MONITOR) to GAME here Are the latest results:-

            Mid East Route Activity "How we were" I have completed the run from York-Kings Cross.

            Only Two Hiccips this time with Graphics disappearing Briefly, Resolved with pressing ESC Key Twice.

            Distances 45.1 and 31.3 Log File Attached. OpenRailsLog.zip ​

            I will now try Dorset Coast v.6 and Thames-Trent V.3 to see how they rspond unfer the new Setting.

            Many thanks again.

            Paul.​
            Attached Files

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            • slipperman
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              • May 2010
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              #21
              Hi Paul,
              As I said before, I don't think the 'missing textures' is an Open Rails problem - I can't see anything relevant in the log (BUT I'm not an expert!).
              The log DOES show a "Sound Process has hung" message but doesn't appear to crash. Sorry, I don't know the cause.

              Cheers,
              Ged

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              • oper190
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                • May 2010
                • 1498
                • Port Charlotte, FL
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                #22
                Something I noticed in the Log which occurs twice:

                Warning: 2 occurrences of UiD 8 in consist with name OR-61576-B12-3-C+8Parcels. Any UiD value should appear only once in a consist

                Warning: 2 occurrences of UiD 8 in consist with name OR-61576-B12-3-C+8Parcels. Any UiD value should appear only once in a consist


                Question, does this consist get called to run twice? Just a wild guess, but if it does, could this problem be happening when it's called to be drawn? Thus throwing a wrench into the sim causing graphics not to draw, but when reset appear. ????

                Not having the route in question I cannot run any sort of test on my own.
                Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                • pcohen
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                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1294
                  • Wrexham North Wales UK

                  #23
                  Hi Geary, thank you for your reply.

                  Looks like the Activity needs re-Numbering.

                  Will change and try again.

                  Many thanks

                  Paul.

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                  • pcohen
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                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1294
                    • Wrexham North Wales UK

                    #24
                    Well, this time i have run from Waterloo to Guildford with One Graphics Hiccup/Scenery dissapearing.

                    Re-Number Geary's Activity but would seem not to have changed anything.

                    Will keep plodding on. Log File Attached. OpenRailsLog.zip

                    thanks

                    Paul.

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                    • oper190
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                      • May 2010
                      • 1498
                      • Port Charlotte, FL
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                      #25
                      Paul given you have changed routes and still have the same problem it would seem to me something is not correctly installed. DO NOT reinstall anything until this can be resolve to a specific cause of the problem. You typically are to quick to start reinstalling things and recreate old problems. It could be some sort of mismatch between your computer and TV/Monitor and reinstalling OR, or Routes will not correct.

                      I do see missing track pieces in your newest Log for Dorset. What TSection are you using?

                      For MidEastCoast Route:
                      Also I do not understand what you did when you say "Re-Number Geary's Activity ,"??? This was with the MidEastCoast route.
                      For that activity and route, only that one consist needed to be corrected. It seems odd that a consist editor would duplicate UID numbers, so I suspect that consist was edited manually.
                      Also saw several consists that could not be placed do to incorrect placement on the track. Was anything modified in that activity or its consists?
                      Are you trying to run activities from an older version of the route on a newer one?
                      Last edited by oper190; 10-10-2026, 05:33.
                      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                      • pcohen
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                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1294
                        • Wrexham North Wales UK

                        #26
                        Hi Geary, thanks again for your reply.

                        Will have to come back to this, going out shortly.

                        Ptrobably talk to you tomorrow.

                        Thanks

                        Paul.

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                        • slipperman
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                          • May 2010
                          • 3787
                          • Worksop, UK
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                          #27
                          Hi Geary,
                          I have run the complete "Where We Were" activity in MidEastCoast, although in two sessions.
                          I have virtually the same log report as Paul with the exception that he has a "Sound Process has hung" message, which didn't seem to crash OR.

                          This activity was originally written for the MidEast Plus route and I think the unplaced Loose Consists are as a result of their locations not being modified for MidEast Coast. The are also two invalid Wait Points, I believe, for the same reason. The Consist UID problem, similarly, is because the original was written for MSTS which didn't complain about such things! The last wagon has been given the same UID as the one before it, as you suggest, probably manually.

                          Cheers,
                          Ged

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                          • oper190
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                            • May 2010
                            • 1498
                            • Port Charlotte, FL
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by slipperman
                            This activity was originally written for the MidEast Plus route and I think the unplaced Loose Consists are as a result of their locations not being modified for MidEast Coast.
                            Though I don't have the Route, I thought that was happening for that reason. I might suggest eliminating those consists from the Activity and see it the same thing happens on a rerun.
                            🤷
                            Since it ran OK for you, that still points to a possible computer video to monitor issue.
                            Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                            Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                            • pcohen
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                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1294
                              • Wrexham North Wales UK

                              #29
                              Hi Geary, back again.

                              Today with no changes I have yet again ran the following 2 Activities:-

                              I have Run DORSET Activity "The London And Dorset Wanderer" from:-

                              Waterloo to Fareham with a Save and Fareham to Weymouth to Complete the Route.

                              Unfotunately the Log File from WAterloo to Fareham did not save, although there was only One Graphics Hiccup, so can only provide a Log File where their were several Graphics Issues for Fareham to Weymouth. OpenRailsLog.zip

                              Pressimg ESC once Pauses the Activity, Pressing ESC a Second time Restores thr Graphics.

                              Have also run "How we Were" from midEast Coast. OpenRailsLog.zip

                              Hope this may be of some use?

                              Many thanks.

                              Paul.

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                              • slipperman
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                                • May 2010
                                • 3787
                                • Worksop, UK
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by pcohen
                                Pressimg ESC once Pauses the Activity, Pressing ESC a Second time Restores thr Graphics.
                                As Geary has mentioned, it appears to be a timing issue between your PC and display TV. I don't believe it's an Open Rails problem per se.
                                You've also had a few warnings like this :
                                Warning: System.IO.FileLoadException: C:\Open Rails\MidEast Coast\trains\trainset\OR-Thompson-BC\BSK-4Comp-BC-T.wag ---> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
                                concerning some coaches in the OR-Thompson-BC and OR-BRMK1-RMB folders.
                                I don't see those messages in my log so can only suppose it is some problem in your system.

                                Cheers,
                                Ged

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