Train Simulations SW1500

[oper190]

I'Il chime in here. Though I'm using OR 1.4 and therefore cannot run these, I still took a look see. As Eric posted:

The only one that I've seen is Dick Cowen's 20 year old variation, and those aren't exactly high poly....

I have those, and just looking at the screens TS has posted, it is quite obvious these far superior models. Much more and better detail. As for physics, yuck the subject I hated the most, they're for OR 1.6 or newer which should tell you that they are using the up-to-date physics that OR is currently using. I don't know what more needs to be posted regarding that.

So, I could upload a model and say I'm using the newest and greats physics, of cause that's from my point of view. So what does it real mean? Nothing!!!

[JSMR]

So what does it real mean? [/U]Nothing!!!

Means everything for realism.
ORTS members spend inordinate amounts of time creating improved physics modelling for the locos, rolling stock etc. Hence the section : Open Rails Modeling and Physics.

If I want pretty outside modelling and all show and no go, I'd use trainz / TSW etc etc etc.

[oper190]

Sorry, but it just seems you want everything for nothing. - My opinion.

[JSMR]

Sorry, but it just seems you want everything for nothing. - My opinion.

There is absolutely nothing I've said that indicates that at all. Not even close.

[ossie]

We're getting a little off track guys. Let's stick with any additional comments/feedback on the new release/thread topic please.

[superheatedsteam]

We're getting a little off track guys. Let's stick with any additional comments/feedback on the new release/thread topic please.

Sorry Pete, but I’m going to divert a little bit but also offer a possible work around. Delete this post if inappropriate.

3D cab views are not for everyone, but I am also the type of person that likes using the mouse to flick switches and turn dials in flight simulator 3D cockpits.

If you don’t like moving your view around in a 3D cab view using a mouse, you can create multiple ‘custom’ fixed views using the ‘ORTSAlternate3DCabViewPoints’ and ‘ ORTSAlternate3DCabViewPoint’ parameters in the .eng file. These have the different orientations, with restricted or zero rotation options that allow you scroll through them by pressing the CTRL + SHIFT + 1 keys.

The SW1001 below is a model I quickly hacked up as a proof of concept for rapid 3D cab view development. It is my observation that there is a commonality of cab components between many 2^nd and 3^rd generation EMD and GE locomotives.

The only reference I had for the SW1001 cab interior was an arrangement drawing so copying and pasting the common AAR cab components from my SD40-2 to the SW1001, made short work of fleshing out a rudimentary cab view. With more references and time a more refined model would result without having to recreate the 3D objects already created for other 3D cab views. As a bonus, 2D cab views can be rendered from 3D models if the modelling program has a render engine.

If anyone wants to modify and finish the SW1001 to a SW1500 3D cab view let me know and I will upload the Blender / GIMP source files to GitHub. This allows community input, peer review and collaboration by those with an interest.

Cheers,

Marek.

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[MMCdude]

Hopefully I'll have some time this week to get these...

To continue with the UP heritage theme, I'd love to see some in SSW, MP, CNW, WP repaints (stacked "Union Pacific"), Alton & Southern, HB&T.

Perhaps I need to step away from my slide collection for a while and get back into doing some repainting.

[PerryPlatypus]

and listed the degree to the physics they've modelled (or haven't modelled).

If you have specific questions about the physics, you can always ask. I'm not sure what could be said on the website that would "prove" to you the degree to which the physics have been modeled or not. I would never claim it's perfect, but I am 100% confident it's a drastic improvement over the physics of any old SW1500s on this site. The physics of SW units like this by nature cannot be perfectly modeled because real SW1500's have a selector switch that changes how quickly the traction motors load for different types of switching vs. road operations. ORTS does not yet possess the ability to model this feature (I confirmed that to be the case with one of the OR physics gurus, Phillip)

At some point if you want to assess it yourself, you'll just need to bite the bullet and buy something. $13 seems like a pretty small investment to see for yourself, and if you *really* don't like it you're out... (checks calculator) 13 bucks.

[eric]

Hey.... here's a possible fix for the rear view. I created a passenger view.... drop it in the Wagon() block of an ENG file:

Inside (
     PassengerCabinFile ( UPY_SW1500_1141.s )
     PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 1.05 3.85 -4.15 )
     RotationLimit ( 40 170 0 )
     StartDirection ( 0 180 0 )
  )

It's not horrible... and you can pan up/down/left/right all you want....... reality is that you'd be sitting somewhat sideways with your head turned back and hands on the controls in back of the camera....

rearview.jpg

[uli2]

That looks really good. Cool!

[kevhead]

Man trainsimulations is really keeping this thing going. If it goes the whole thing won't be far behind.

[tarrant75]

Hey.... here's a possible fix for the rear view. I created a passenger view.... drop it in the Wagon() block of an ENG file:

Inside (
PassengerCabinFile ( UPY_SW1500_1141.s )
PassengerCabinHeadPos ( 1.05 3.85 -4.15 )
RotationLimit ( 40 170 0 )
StartDirection ( 0 180 0 )
)

It's not horrible... and you can pan up/down/left/right all you want....... reality is that you'd be sitting somewhat sideways with your head turned back and hands on the controls in back of the camera....

Eric, can't for the life me figure the passenger view. Think I've tried about five different configurations as to where it's supposed to be placed. Any help would be greatly appreciated




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[derekmorton]

Tried here?

TripleValveRatio ( 2.5 )
MaxReleaseRate ( 3.5psi/s )
MaxApplicationRate ( 6psi/s )
MaxAuxilaryChargingRate ( 20psi/s )



BrakeCylinderPressureForMaxBrakeBrakeForce ( 72 )

Inside (
PassengerCabinFile ( cprobs4.s )
PassengerCabinHeadPos (-0.65 4.35 -1.30 )
RotationLimit ( 30 160 0 )
StartDirection ( 0 0 0 )
Sound ( "canobs.sms" )

[tarrant75]

That would be in one of Inc Files. Not sure if it's supposed to go that or not

[derekmorton]

Just put it inline in the eng file and see what happens.