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  • wwhall
    Senior Member


    • May 2010
    • 652
    • Kansas
    • MSOR

    #1

    250th Heritage locomotives

    I'm just curious as to why there have not been any "authentic" repaints of locomotives in the various 250th Heritage paint schemes released that I am aware of. Any thoughts?
  • oper190
    1000 Post Veteran



    • May 2010
    • 1498
    • Port Charlotte, FL
    • English
    • MSOR

    #2
    Ask the Rail Roads, that's their business and choice.
    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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    • qballbandit
      6500 Post Veteran

      • Jan 2006
      • 6522
      • Elgin Il., USA.
      • MSOR

      #3
      I think he meant here???
      Neil

      Chicago Railroading Fan

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      • trainlover2923
        Senior Member


        • May 2010
        • 184
        • Lynchburg Missouri
        • MSOR

        #4
        Yeah I also think he ment models for here and not in the real world
        Roburt

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        • pwillard
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          • Nov 1999
          • 3070
          • Cumming Ga
          • ORTS

          #5
          Oh, that's easy. Because someone has to do it. They don't just magically appear.
          http://www.railsimstuff.com
          Just Blender now, 3DCrafter only when I have to.
          Formerly The Keystone Works (All Permissions Granted)
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          • oper190
            1000 Post Veteran



            • May 2010
            • 1498
            • Port Charlotte, FL
            • English
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            #6
            Seems I misunderstood the comment - Simple answer reskin some yourself, on models that can be redistributed after the change and upload them.
            Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
            Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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            • CSRX
              13500 Post Veteran



              • Oct 2005
              • 13646
              • Lincoln, ME
              • English
              • ORTS

              #7
              It's weird how we went from a community that helped one another out, to a community of "just do it yourself."

              Why do we even have a "items wanted" section anymore if this is what this hobby has become?
              🤷
              -Shawn K-
              MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
              ​

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              • oper190
                1000 Post Veteran



                • May 2010
                • 1498
                • Port Charlotte, FL
                • English
                • MSOR

                #8
                Originally posted by CSRX
                Why do we even have a "items wanted" section anymore if this is what this hobby has become?
                Then this should have been posted there, and not posed as a question.
                I'm no great reskinner so this is out of my league. Perhaps if more members learned how to use the tools available, ( I'm one of them ) we'd have more thing to offer.
                Yee old saying, "Baggers can't be choicers."
                Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                • EvolutionMan
                  Member

                  • Jul 2025
                  • 79
                  • ORTS

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CSRX
                  It's weird how we went from a community that helped one another out, to a community of "just do it yourself."
                  Absolutely agree...dedicating your time and effort to help others inspires them to create more or even learn new techniques.

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                  • oper190
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                    • May 2010
                    • 1498
                    • Port Charlotte, FL
                    • English
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Originally posted by EvolutionMan
                    Absolutely agree...dedicating your time and effort to help others inspires them to create more or even learn new techniques.
                    Agree with helping, but this was posed as a question. So maybe some don't like the answers they're getting, but I'm not seeing anyone offering to do those models to "help" this person get what they want
                    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                    • EvolutionMan
                      Member

                      • Jul 2025
                      • 79
                      • ORTS

                      #11
                      Perhaps it has to do with the way the schemes were designed in the first place. Most I've seen have a large number of elements with complicated curves, accents, and graphics, some of which were designed specifically for those schemes and can't really be found anywhere.

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                      • gammaray84
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2018
                        • 180

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CSRX
                        It's weird how we went from a community that helped one another out, to a community of "just do it yourself."
                        Yeah i don't know if this was ever a thing, "help each other out". My experiance was if i cannot do it myself i do not bother other people with my wishes and one of the main resons is exactly this "do it yourself".

                        But hey, you know what, money is great motivator. Just saying....

                        Have a good day everyone.

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                        • CSRX
                          13500 Post Veteran



                          • Oct 2005
                          • 13646
                          • Lincoln, ME
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by oper190
                          Agree with helping, but this was posed as a question. So maybe some don't like the answers they're getting, but I'm not seeing anyone offering to do those models to "help" this person get what they want
                          He was simply curious, I don't think he was expecting someone to jump in and say "I'll do it!" let alone someone to chime in with the do it yourself comment. I'm sure, he, like some of us, are curious as to why no one has attempted these repaints, all while some have dished out as many fantasy ones as we could before July 4th.

                          In one case, it was stated in a positive answer, that a lot of these "250th" units, are very complex, very unique, and for me, well beyond my patience and talent. Could be way no one has tackled them yet. Besides, I think a lot of us repainters are getting burnt out trying to mimic the real-life railroads, and stick to our own personal world.
                          -Shawn K-
                          MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
                          ​

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                          • wwhall
                            Senior Member


                            • May 2010
                            • 652
                            • Kansas
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Let me clarify my question: Typically, "special" locomotives--any kind of "heritage" locomotive--spark reskinners' interests in recreating them for MSTS/OR. The "250th" locomotives, fielded in the "real world" by most of the Class One U.S. railroads, and many smaller roads, have not--at least not so far. I was curious as to why.

                            Second, as to the "build it yourself" mantra, I'm getting pretty sick of hearing that. Not everyone who enjoys the train simming hobby have the skills, the time, or the hardware/software to take on doing re-skinning or model creation. I do not think, not even for a second, that content creators should be "shamed" by any "gimme pigs" into creating content that content creators don't want to create. In fact, I wish that there were better ways for people who would like to see content created to financially contribute to those creators who would be inclined to do so.

                            On the subject of the "250th" locomotives, I'm actually a bit surprised that the payware providers didn't jump onto doing those, at least not as of yet. Maybe they figured that interest in such locomotives would quickly wane as soon as the celebrations were over.

                            I will close by giving a big "Thank You" to all of the content creators, payware or freeware, who have produced content over the years for MSTS and OpenRails.

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                            • EvolutionMan
                              Member

                              • Jul 2025
                              • 79
                              • ORTS

                              #15
                              Originally posted by wwhall
                              The "250th" locomotives, fielded in the "real world" by most of the Class One U.S. railroads, and many smaller roads, have not--at least not so far.
                              And that changes now...might as well show this. It's a reskin of Mike Adams and Mike Karlik's N&W Class J 611 into it's USA 250 scheme (applied for the current excursion season on the Buckingham Branch's Virginia Scenic Railway), loosely inspired by concept art for the American Freedom Train. Not sure if there would be any interest in this particular appearance. (This was actually a fairly simple scheme in terms of design, so it was quite easy to do.) Just needs a few minor texture changes and it should be ready.
                              N&W_611_USA_250.png
                              Last edited by EvolutionMan; 07-18-2026, 12:54. Reason: Misidentified credit.

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