Open Rails Timetable Editor: Stations not in order

[TrainGuy6550]

Timetable Editor:

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My Path:
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Train goes from Bhilwara to Samphupura (Downwards)

Should I manually reorder the stations? But then what about branching... e.g. after Chanderiya (junction point) should the next station be Chittaurgarh (right branch) or Ghosunda (left branch)? Make separate station files? But then that won't work if I define more trains that aren't on the same path...

[Laci1959]

Use the Save Visited Stations menu item for the route shown in the picture. It will list the visited stations in a txt file. From there, copy and paste the station names.
If it exists, do the same for the other branch.
Copy all the stations by skipping one line (or two). The stations on the common section will be twice, but this will not cause a problem, because either one or the other will be empty, depending on which direction the train is going.

[eric]

I don't think the timetable function itself cares what order the stations are top to bottom, as long as the times are correct.

[TrainGuy6550]

I don't think the timetable function itself cares what order the stations are top to bottom, as long as the times are correct.

You're right

Use the Save Visited Stations menu item for the route shown in the picture. It will list the visited stations in a txt file. From there, copy and paste the station names.
If it exists, do the same for the other branch.
Copy all the stations by skipping one line (or two). The stations on the common section will be twice, but this will not cause a problem, because either one or the other will be empty, depending on which direction the train is going.

But this looks more practical and easy to use, I'll def try this

[Laci1959]

Of course this is true.
BUT!
But it definitely makes the work easier, especially if the stations follow each other like in an official timetable. Then you almost only have to copy, you don't have to look for the next station. There is less chance of error, and the difference in preparation time for a few hundred trains is also significant.

[TrainGuy6550]

I ran into another problem (would've updated the title but it doesn't allow me to now)

Is there any way to calculate the timings of the schedule for a particular defined train? Like MSTS, where it calculate the Arr and Dep times judging by the distance b/w 2 stations, the average speed, the player performance (25% looks the most realistic) and possibly the priority of the station (not sure about this). Using the "Recalculate this" option.
Regarding TSRE, I have 2 issues:
1) It's laggy and creating an act takes a while...
2) The "Calculate" button of TSRE calculates the timings in a weird way... It writes the same arrival and departure times. This has been TSRE's behavior since I started... so I must be doing something wrong?
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3) Also, if this is user error, and the fix is easy, would it be possible to only run THIS component of TSRE (the timetable editor) by using a flag with the executable? It'd be really easy to calculate the timetables in this way, though yes it requires creating a service file.
Actually, scratch that. It requires both the service editor and TSRE timetable editor.

A better alternative would be to just use the the timetable calculation logic from TSRE (now that it's FOSS), though I have no idea how to do so.

But I can't think of any alternatives beside guessing the timings for non-real-distance routes.

https://github.com/YoRyan/autotable: This only works for real-distance routes, which most freeware routes are not.

[TrainGuy6550]

Found my answer in an ET thread
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[eric]

But I can't think of any alternatives beside guessing the timings for non-real-distance routes.

You might have to do it the ancient way.... simple math. time = distance / velocity

A train running at 70kmph has to travel between two stations 20km apart... that's 18 minutes with some padding for acceleration and braking. It pauses for 60 seconds to unload and load passengers.

If that doesn't work, ask AI to calculate it for you.

[TrainGuy6550]

You might have to do it the ancient way.... simple math. time = distance / velocity

A train running at 70kmph has to travel between two stations 20km apart... that's 18 minutes with some padding for acceleration and braking. It pauses for 60 seconds to unload and load passengers.

If that doesn't work, ask AI to calculate it for you.

Yes, I already thought of this.

But the issue is: how do I find the distance between the stations?

Open rails calculates the distances in real time in game.

In fact, it is even possible for AI to make me a simple HTML app that works offline and uses that elementary formula to calculate the schedule. Possibly, even I can tell it to consider the slowing of trains during arrival and departure (like a rough 30 kmph)... should make it really close to the calculated timetable. but the issue above is the blocker.

[c44d9w]

But the issue is: how do I find the distance between the stations?

The Track Viewer (under Tools), has a Show Chart item (under Path Editor). I shows the distance along the path.

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[TrainGuy6550]

Somehow completely missed it. Thanks for pointing it out 👍

[TrainGuy6550]

In case anyone's interested: https://github.com/dummyloles-ship-it/orts-tmcalc

[mnowosad]

In case anyone's interested: https://github.com/dummyloles-ship-it/orts-tmcalc

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Real Timetable

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Open Rails PSK Route https://psk.trainsim.pl/

[Brot]

In case anyone's interested: https://github.com/dummyloles-ship-it/orts-tmcalc

this is a jewel, thanks a lot

[Brot]

it seems that, even though you deselected the first station for halt, the calculator takes it into account. Maybe needs a slight change such that the start time (select at the top left) is assigned to the first station from the top that has a halt?