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  • OmenRotcod
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    • Apr 2022
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    #1

    Utah Belt SD40-2 #3099 engine not visible

    Utah Belt SD40-2 #3099 engine does not show up when included in a Consist.
    If you look in the OpenRails folder that is in the "UB_SD40-2_3099" folder, you will see the file "UB_SD40-2_3099.eng". Change this to "UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" and the engine will appear.

    Does anyone else have this problem? Am I using the best solution?

    Thanks for any help.

    David


  • crstagg
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    • Nov 1999
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    #2
    Originally posted by OmenRotcod
    Utah Belt SD40-2 #3099 engine does not show up when included in a Consist.
    If you look in the OpenRails folder that is in the "UB_SD40-2_3099" folder, you will see the file "UB_SD40-2_3099.eng". Change this to "UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" and the engine will appear.

    Does anyone else have this problem? Am I using the best solution?

    Thanks for any help.

    David

    ???????????????? There already is an ENG file "UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" in the folder UB_SD40-2_3093. Creating another in the UB_SD40-2_3099 folder creates a duplicate file.

    The "UB_SD40-2_3099.eng" is the lead loco in the consist ub_ai_eb_hopperfreight44.con. Opening OR and selecting 3099 in theengine selection and ub_ai_eb_hopperfreight44.con in the consist selection. Then starting OR and the consist appears with 3099 in the lead.

    WHAT do you mean by " #3099 engine does not show up when included in a Consist." Works fine as far as I can see. Did you mean in a consist you created? Maybe there is an error in your consist.
    Last edited by crstagg; 06-26-2026, 13:00.
    Charles

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    • crstagg
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      #3
      FYI there are eight consists furnished with the UB that use 3099 as the lead loco. I have opened all 8 and 3099 appears every time.
      Charles

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      • OmenRotcod
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        • Apr 2022
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        #4
        Thank you for your reply, Charles I wonder whether we are on the same page.

        For one thing, I and not talking about "Creating another [.eng file] in the UB_SD40-2_3099 folder creates a duplicate file." — that would be stupid.

        What I am referring to is the file in OpenFiles folder in the "UB_SD40-2_3099" folder. That folder contains another .eng file, which looks like this:—


        include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3099.eng" )
        Wagon (
        include ( "..\\..\\Common.inc\\Locomotives\\Std_TypeF_Co uple r.inc" )
        include ( "..\\..\\Common.inc\\Locomotives\\Std_Loco_Bra kes. inc" )
        ORTSAdhesion ( ORTSCurtius_Kniffler ( 7.5 44 0.161 0.7 ) )
        ORTSAdhesion ( ORTSSlipWarningThreshold ( 70 ) )
        ORTSBearingType ( Roller )
        ORTSDavis_A ( 1901.54 )
        ORTSDavis_B ( 58.2089 )
        ORTSDavis_C ( 8.740152 )
        Comment ( == Assumptions -Locomotive diesel/electric - speed - 65mph (105km/h), Roller Bearing, 6 axles, frontal area - 15.2m2, WagonWeight - 176.9 ton (metric), Drag 1.0 == )
        )
        Engine (
        Effects (
        DieselSpecialEffects (
        Exhaust1 (
        0 4.87 1.51
        0 1 0
        0.15
        )
        )
        )
        include ( "..\\..\\Common.inc\\Locomotives\\Std_SLI_SD40-2_Eng.inc" )
        )

        All the other SD40-2 provided have "include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" )".

        Those engines show up in the Activity. As I said, change this to "UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" and the engine will appear.
        ​

        When you say you have opened all the consists, do you mean the files or the activities in which they occur?

        They do appear in all the consist files, but not when the activities are run — at least not for me. So, that's why I put the question the way I did.

        David

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        • crstagg
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          #5
          I do not care to search thru every ACT file to find which one uses 3099 so give me the name of the ACT you found the problem in.
          Charles

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          • OmenRotcod
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            • Apr 2022
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            #6
            Gladly. The Activity is "UB_EB_Wayfreight.act". The player's consist is "plyr_eb_wayfreight1.con". Check if UB_SD40-2_3099 shows on the front of the consist when you run the activity.

            When I first tried the activity, that engine wasn't visible. After I made the change, it is visible.

            David

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            • dcarleton
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              #7
              It would help if you provided an OR log file from when this happened.

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              • OmenRotcod
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                • Apr 2022
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                #8
                What I am talking about did not result in an error in the OpenRails program (version 1.6.1), so there was no log file produced.

                Because the first engine did not load properly, I found myself looking from the next engine in the consist back down the train.
                I would be interested if anyone noticed the same thing. That was the point of my original post. I was not asking for a solution, because I had found one. I was wondering if anyone else had noticed that the engine was missing.

                In the .eng file in the OpenRails folder for the engine in question, there is a line — include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3099.eng" ).
                I changed this to — include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" ) and then I could see out of the front of engine 3099.

                Please try running the activity, and let us know what you see.

                Thanks

                David

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                • dcarleton
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                  #9
                  Mine works just fine.
                  Could you at least tell us which version of OR you're using?

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                  • OmenRotcod
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                    #10
                    I am using version 1.6.1 - as I wrote previously.

                    David

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                    • slipperman
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                      #11
                      Hi David,
                      After I installed the route this evening, I followed your suggestion and can only support Charles' comments - there is absolutely no problem with loco 3099! I suggest that you've made an error when installing the TRAINSET. With respect, the 'solution' you found is NOT a solution but a fix for an error you seem to have made.

                      Originally posted by OmenRotcod
                      All the other SD40-2 provided have "include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" )".
                      That is not quite correct! Only locos 3090, 3095 and 3100 erroneously have 3093 in their Open Rails 'include'. header. I suggest they should be corrected otherwise I don't believe the OR include parameters will be used for those three locos.

                      I am using OR Stable v1.6.1, running with Windows 10.

                      Cheers,
                      Ged

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                      • Darkhorse427
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                        • Mar 2012
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                        • Eugene Or.
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                        #12
                        UB_SD40-2_v2.jpg UB_SD45_v2.jpg I will make sure these engine file issues are corrected in the upcoming Light package update for the Utah Belt engines.

                        For those that do not follow the Discord message board Parker Boots and I have been working on a set of upgraded locomotives with the appropriate Lighting package that Eric Brooman used on his HO scale models

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                        • dcarleton
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by OmenRotcod
                          I am using version 1.6.1 - as I wrote previously.
                          Okay. I was just confirming that you are using 1.6.1. Some people have multiple versions installed, and it can be too easy to accidentally open the wrong one.
                          But Ged is correct: Unit 3099 as it was uploaded should have worked just fine in 1.6.1

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                          • OmenRotcod
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                            #14
                            Thanks for the explanation Ged.
                            Perhaps I noticed what you mentioned in the second paragraph and changed "include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3099.eng" )" to "include ( "..\\UB_SD40-2_3093.eng" )" and that caused the engine not to show (not clear about that).
                            Would be interesting to know why it caused that.
                            Sorry if anyone thinks my post was a waste of time.
                            David

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                            • crstagg
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dcarleton
                              Mine works just fine.
                              Could you at least tell us which version of OR you're using?
                              Same here. Activity works correctly. Went to #2 view and 3099 is on the point. FYI OR vewr 1.5.1-1485. Yes I am lazy and have not upgraded.
                              Charles

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