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  • bnsfsd40-2
    Senior Member

    • May 2008
    • 106
    • Bad Elster, Germany

    #1

    AI train doesn’t spawn

    Hello,

    I am currently trying to create a scenario for the Roseville Sub from the library. The start went well, but I’ve run into a problem: the second AI train isn't loading at its scheduled start time and won’t be displayed at all. I’m using Open Rails TrackViewer for the paths and TSRE to build the scenario. I’ve edited or recreated the paths, consists, and services several times, but without success at all.

    I have already read some manuals and other Informations. The first AI train works fine and at the moment there is no third AI train created.

    Any help would be appreciated,

    Daniel
    Daniel Schmidt
    former MSTS painter -- now Open Rails driver
  • adreid
    Senior Member


    • Jul 2019
    • 136
    • Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    • General

    #2
    Hi Daniel,
    I have the Roseville Sub loaded on my computer -- Send me your activity, and I will take a look at it.

    Regards,
    Dan

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    • bnsfsd40-2
      Senior Member

      • May 2008
      • 106
      • Bad Elster, Germany

      #3
      Good morning,

      The ZIP file is attached. I hope the folder contains all the necessary files. It also includes a list of vehicles that are currently used to some extent. In the future, most of them are intended to be used (theoretically) to create a wide variety of trains.

      The train that isn't being loaded is the flanger run at 08:05 AM. Unfortunately, I don't yet know that much about how TRSE / Open Rails behaves in certain situations.

      Amtrak #5 Donner.zip
      Attached Files
      Last edited by bnsfsd40-2; 06-18-2026, 01:27.
      Daniel Schmidt
      former MSTS painter -- now Open Rails driver

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      • slipperman
        3500 Post Veteran



        • May 2010
        • 3787
        • Worksop, UK
        • MSOR

        #4
        Hi Daniel,
        I don't have that route installed, but looking at your activity (.act) file, there is only one AI Service specified - Roseville Sub WB ROOAM 1. You need to include an entry for the other AI train, Roseville Sub Truckee Flanger 1. I have never used TSRE to create activities so don't know if it's a known problem.

        May I suggest that, if you need to check activities, you use my MSTS_ActMan (file ID 90886). Although 'MSTS' is in the title, it will work equally well for Open Rails activities - it will just ignore OR-specific parameters.

        Cheers,
        Ged

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        • adreid
          Senior Member


          • Jul 2019
          • 136
          • Toronto, Ontario, Canada
          • General

          #5
          Hi Daniel,

          You are simply the victim of a "deficiency" of TSRE. I can see both trains in the traffic file(.trf):

          Traffic_Definition ( "California Zephyr AMTK #5"
          Serial ( 1 )
          Service_Definition ( "Roseville Sub WB ROOAM 1" 28800
          )
          Service_Definition ( "Roseville Sub Truckee Flanger 1" 29100
          )
          )

          TSRE, however has failed to copy this definition to the activity file, after the second train was added -- this what I see in the activity file (.act):

          Traffic_Definition ( "California Zephyr AMTK #5"
          Service_Definition ( "Roseville Sub WB ROOAM 1" 27060
          UiD ( 1 )
          )
          )

          In order to force TSRE to save the updated definition you must follow these steps:
          1) set the traffic to "UNDEFINED"
          2) set the traffic to "California Zephyr AMTK #5"
          3) make some change to the activity (description, briefing, etc)
          4) save the activity (make sure the message box shows the .act file being saved)

          Just be sure, browse the .act file with notepad.

          Let me know if this solves your problem.

          Regards,
          Dan

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          • bnsfsd40-2
            Senior Member

            • May 2008
            • 106
            • Bad Elster, Germany

            #6
            Thanks for the feedback.

            It turned out that TSRE wasn't saving the data correctly. The second AI train now appears as planned and runs through without any issues. From now on, I’ll make a small change to the description before saving.

            If I run into any other problems, I’ll post here again.
            Moving right along—thanks!

            Daniel
            Daniel Schmidt
            former MSTS painter -- now Open Rails driver

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