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  • DuctTapeGuru
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    • May 2010
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    #1

    ORTS maximum number of loose consists

    Regarding the activity Pipe Train Extra for the LSRC route in OR ver. T1.5.1-1627. Is there a maximum number of loose consists that OR will display? There are 54 loose consists in this activity. The ones at the top of the list (which I assume were added earlier) will display. Those at the bottom of the list (which I assume were added later) do not show up in the activity. What may be the reason(s) this is happening?
    Unfortunately, I cannot post a log file, as my worn out old computer will not make one, or should it do so, it is corrupt and will not open. Further, ORTS 1.6 does not run on my ancient machine, nor have I the finances to purchase a new one. Please do not ask for a log file, or suggest a hardware upgrade.

    Thank you for any answers.

    DTG
  • oper190
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    • May 2010
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    • Port Charlotte, FL
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    #2
    A couple of things come to mind:
    1 - Can you check the loss consists for missing cars? OR will run but just not draw missing engines and cars.
    2 - Possibly a bad line in the Activity file for those consists, making them unreadable.
    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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    • yellowdog
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      • Nov 1999
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      #3
      Without the log file, it's difficult to know. But I understand that's a limitation. So I'll offer a couple of guesses based on things I've experienced.

      1) it's possible the consist is too long to fit where it's placed. This can happen if you've replaced wagons in the consist that are bigger than what the original consist contained. To fix it, you have to shorten the consist either by selecting shorter cars or deleting the number of cars.

      2) It's possible that ORTS doesn't load a legacy MSTS consist/activity in the same way that MSTS would have. To fix, you'd have to go into a route editor and either adjust the position/location of the consist or adjust the activity.

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      • OmenRotcod
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        • Apr 2022
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        • Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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        #4
        From what I have seen in installing these Activities, I have to agree with Geary, Oper190. If a stock item is missing, ORTS stops adding any more stock items to the ActivityObjects. But I think they show up in TSRE as they should.
        David

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        • oper190
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          • May 2010
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          #5
          FYI - Just uploaded the Activity - did a quick check in ConBuilder which shows 54 loss consists, so they are correctly listed - even with my rather large collection of rolling stock I am miss most of the required rolling stock.

          Edit - Now to replace all that with what I have
          Last edited by oper190; 04-27-2026, 10:30.
          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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          • DuctTapeGuru
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            • May 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by oper190
            Can you check the loss consists for missing cars? OR will run but just not draw missing engines and cars.
            There are missing items in the loose consists. I thought I had replaced them all, but apparently did not save the changes. All of the loose consists that are locomotives only do not load, and there are no missing items in those.
            When I load the route in to TSRE route editor, all the loose consists show.

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            • dcarleton
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              • Nov 2008
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              #7
              Originally posted by OmenRotcod
              If a stock item is missing, ORTS stops adding any more stock items to the ActivityObjects.
              Close, but not quite. If all of the items in a loose consist are missing, OR stops adding the remaining loose consists from there down. So, if the first loose consist is one item, but you haven't got that item, none of the loose consists will be loaded. On the other hand, if there are strings of several items each and one item is missing from each string, it should still load all the others nonetheless.

              Regardless, activities work best when all of the consist items are represented. Substitutions are your friend!

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              • DuctTapeGuru
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                • May 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by dcarleton
                Close, but not quite. If all of the items in a loose consist are missing, OR stops adding the remaining loose consists
                And this was the problem. I had missed replacing 3 units from the 54 loose consists. Seems like an OK percentage, except all three were loose consists with only one unit.

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