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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #1

    Route help please?

    Good Afternoon everybody, hope somebody can help with this Problem please?

    Can somebody please tellme I'm not going mad! I have asked this before without any luck?

    I have seen recently ( but only once a Route that covers London Kings Cross -
    Edinburgh and need to know please, how or where I can Purchase or Download this product please?

    I have checked the following In Train Simulator Classic:-

    Home, Loco's Routes and Market Place but with no luck.

    I have on my Computer the Original Microsoft Train Simulator and the current Train Simulator Classic.

    I would dearly like to purchase this Route and any additions required to run It, but really need some help as to where to Find It, but am only interested In this Route?

    any help with this Please?

    Thanks

    Paul.
    Last edited by pcohen; 04-06-2026, 07:16.
  • slipperman
    3500 Post Veteran



    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #2
    Good Afternoon, Paul,
    Welcome back - Hope you're keeping well
    You have posted in an Open Rails Forum and think you may get more relevant information in either the RW/TS2016-TS2020 General or Train Sim World Forums.

    However, London Kings Cross to Edinburgh is about 400 miles. As far as I am aware, most routes from that supplier are much shorter.
    Checking with Google, it appears that to travel that distance requires 4 separate routes to be installed.

    I DO stand to be corrected, though!

    Cheers,
    Ged

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    • oper190
      1000 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 1498
      • Port Charlotte, FL
      • English
      • MSOR

      #3
      Paul got this from AI on Internet:

      "For Microsoft Train Simulator (MSTS), the premier route covering Kings Cross to Edinburgh is the East Coast Main Line (ECML), which covers the full 393-mile route, featuring iconic stops like York, Newcastle, and Berwick-upon-Tweed. Various community-created ECML versions exist for MSTS, and it is also featured in modern simulators like Trainz 2019 and Train Sim World"
      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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      • pcohen
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Jul 2007
        • 1294
        • Wrexham North Wales UK

        #4
        Good afternoon Ged, happy Easter to you and your Family.

        I thought the Logo, circle with a cross with the Initials R R was Rail Routes, but was obviously wrong.

        I have definitely seen this route somewhere.

        Thanks

        Paul.

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #5
          Hi Geary, many thanks for your reply.

          Can you please, tell me a Link, where I can obtain/Purchase this please?

          Many thanks

          Paul.

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          • slipperman
            3500 Post Veteran



            • May 2010
            • 3787
            • Worksop, UK
            • MSOR

            #6
            Hi Geary,
            I'm afraid that you cannot believe everything AI tells you!
            The East Coast Main line series only covers Kings Cross to York (parts 1 and 2). The other two parts don't go any further North.
            As far as I am aware, there are no routes for MSTS which follow the East Coast mainline between York and Newcastle or onwards to Edinburgh.

            Cheers,
            Ged

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            • pcohen
              1000 Post Veteran


              • Jul 2007
              • 1294
              • Wrexham North Wales UK

              #7
              Hi everybody. I already have Kings Cross to York (parts 1 and 2).

              Thanks

              Paul.

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              • slipperman
                3500 Post Veteran



                • May 2010
                • 3787
                • Worksop, UK
                • MSOR

                #8
                Hi Paul,
                Originally posted by pcohen
                I thought the Logo, circle with a cross with the Initials R R was Rail Routes ....
                Where did you see that logo? It's not one I recognise.
                If you can find the page again, please post its link.

                Cheers,
                Ged

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                • oper190
                  1000 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 1498
                  • Port Charlotte, FL
                  • English
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slipperman
                  The East Coast Main line series only covers Kings Cross to York (parts 1 and 2). The other two parts don't go any further North.
                  Can not argue per say, don't have any of them myself. I was searching to see what I could find. However there are activities stating they cover King Cross to Edinburgh listing the route as East Coast Main Line (ECML) which I can't find, so believe it was payware and no longer available

                  Originally posted by pcohen
                  Can you please, tell me a Link, where I can obtain/Purchase this please?
                  Paul - I never found a route that's available. Might try looking for sites that deal with Trainz 2019 and Train Sim World if interested.
                  Last edited by oper190; 04-06-2026, 12:29.
                  Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                  Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                  • slipperman
                    3500 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 3787
                    • Worksop, UK
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Hi Geary,
                    No, mate there was NEVER an MSTS route which covered that distance. It wouldn't even be possible to create such a route for MSTS!

                    Are you sure you haven't seen a website advertising a scenario for that route? I have seen that one for Dovetail Games Train Simulator. Even so, I believe it requires several individual routes to be merged to run it. It was offered by a company called Alan Thomson Simulation -
                    This scenario simulates the 1S28 18:00 LNER departure from London Kings Cross to Edinburgh in 2018. The stops enroute are York, Darlington, Newcastle, Berwick and Edinburgh.
                    Cheers,
                    Ged

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                    • pcohen
                      1000 Post Veteran


                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1294
                      • Wrexham North Wales UK

                      #11
                      Hi Ged, they are in the Trainsim.com forums.

                      Paul

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                      • slipperman
                        3500 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 3787
                        • Worksop, UK
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Hi Paul,
                        OK, mate, but which one/s Can you please link to them?

                        Ged
                        EDIT : Don't worry, mate, I found it in your "Unusual Request Please?" thread of August 2025, in the RW/TS2015-TS2020 General Forum

                        Last edited by slipperman; 04-06-2026, 13:32.

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                        • oper190
                          1000 Post Veteran



                          • May 2010
                          • 1498
                          • Port Charlotte, FL
                          • English
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Originally posted by slipperman
                          there was NEVER an MSTS route which covered that distance.
                          I quite understand, and am sure of that. It's possible they were done in sections over multiple routes? Regardless can't locate a route or routes for that.
                          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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