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  • niknak
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 1254
    • UK.
    • MSOR

    #1

    Canton Route Activity Problem

    Anyone got Rich Garber's Canton route?

    I'm unable to load 3 of the supplied activities: ctn 04, 31 and 32. Route Riter shows missing traffic files for 31 and 32 but reports no errors for 04.

    Conbuilder shows all stock is present and correct.

    I emailed Rich who responded promptly but is unable to help due to his unfamiliarity with OR.

    No OR log available as these 3 acts won't load.

    Any ideas please?
    Regards,

    Nick

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  • slipperman
    3500 Post Veteran



    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #2
    Hi Nick,
    MSTS_ActMan only reports that Traffic files for ctn_31 and ctn_32 are missing.

    With respect to Rich, this error is nothing to do with Open Rails - the files really are missing!

    MSTS runs ctn_04 OK but Open Rails doesn't even 'see' it!! Maybe because the .act file doesn't have a Traffic file entry, but that doesn't make sense because traffic files aren't mandatory!

    Cheers,
    Ged

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    • niknak
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      • Nov 1999
      • 1254
      • UK.
      • MSOR

      #3
      Hi Ged,

      Yes I ran ActMan as well as RR yesterday and got the same missing traffic files result. It's puzzling because Rich said in his email that nobody had ever contacted him back in the day to complain about these 3 activities not working and the route is over 20 years old! Also, there are over 90 activities but only 41 traffic files, yet only these 3 acts refuse to load in OR. .
      Last edited by niknak; 04-04-2026, 07:20.
      Regards,

      Nick

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      • slipperman
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        • May 2010
        • 3787
        • Worksop, UK
        • MSOR

        #4
        Hi Nick,
        All 3 activities load and start OK in MSTS. Obviously, for acts 31 and 32, there'd be no AI trains.

        The AI services for activities ctn_31 and ctn_32 are all present in the services folder so it's a simple matter to add ctn_31.trf and ctn_32.trf files and then add the two services required for ctn_31 and one service for ctn_32. When this is done, the two activities display in the OR menu and can be started. Attached are the two .trf files.

        Activity ctn_04 is different in that it doesn't have a Traffic entry. However, neither does ctn_01 or ctn_00 and they CAN be run in OR so there must be something else different about ctn_04!

        Cheers,
        Ged
        Canton31&32Traffic.zip
        Attached Files
        Last edited by slipperman; 04-04-2026, 09:20.

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        • niknak
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          • Nov 1999
          • 1254
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          #5
          Hi Ged,

          Many thanks for the zip file which has enabled me to now run ctn_31 and 32.

          I guess getting 2 out of the 3 activities to run isn't bad!
          Regards,

          Nick

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          • niknak
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            • Nov 1999
            • 1254
            • UK.
            • MSOR

            #6
            Hi Ged,

            I'm looking at ctn_04 using your ActivityTimes Changer app and the times shown look distinctly iffy.

            The activity starts at 12 noon but the 2 passenger times are both shown as 00:-40.00.
            Regards,

            Nick

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            • bandorr2000
              Senior Member

              • Feb 2005
              • 608
              • Cinnaminson, New Jersey, USA.

              #7
              Try this zip for ctn04. The only problem I have is that the RDC used in the activity will not let me switch cabs. This has been tested in Open Rails.
              Attached Files
              Glenn Duba
              Cinnaminson, NJ

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              • niknak
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                • Nov 1999
                • 1254
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                #8
                Many thanks Glenn, ctn_04 is now a runner!
                Regards,

                Nick

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                Cyberpower Desktop with AMD Ryzen 5 CPU /. 16GB RAM /. ATI AMD Radeon RX6700 12GB graphics /. Windows 11 Home 64bit /. RailDriver /. Partridge in a pear tree....​

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                • slipperman
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                  • May 2010
                  • 3787
                  • Worksop, UK
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Hi,
                  Glenn : Thanks, mate. I'd come to the same conclusion and had modified the activity using my ActivityTimesChanger utility, with very similar figures to yours!!

                  Nick : If you've not done it already, you can use the Reverse Cab Creator (file ID 15358), which enables you to switch to the 'other' cab!

                  I think the p-way gang have to get out and clear the tracks of trees and vegetation!!

                  Cheers,
                  Ged

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                  • niknak
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                    • Nov 1999
                    • 1254
                    • UK.
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Hi Ged,

                    That Reverse Cab Maker is a handy little tool! I've just tried it and it works perfectly, many thanks,

                    Yes I've found quite a few instances of trees and bushes etc on or near the tracks. I guess OR maybe puts them in a slightly different position to MSTS?

                    The route must have been quite a leap forward back in 2003 but it's showing it's age a little now.
                    Regards,

                    Nick

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                    • bandorr2000
                      Senior Member

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 608
                      • Cinnaminson, New Jersey, USA.

                      #11
                      Slipperman THANK YOU - wasn't aware of that utility.
                      Glenn Duba
                      Cinnaminson, NJ

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                      • oper190
                        1000 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 1498
                        • Port Charlotte, FL
                        • English
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Originally posted by niknak
                        Yes I've found quite a few instances of trees and bushes etc on or near the tracks.
                        If they are from "forest" zones, try this file:

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                        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                        • OmenRotcod
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2022
                          • 153
                          • Calgary, Alberta, Canada
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Does this do pretty much the same as the ORTS function in 16.1 Modifications to .trk Files?
                          E.g.,
                          ORTSUserPreferenceForestClearDistance ( 2 )
                          David

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                          • slipperman
                            3500 Post Veteran



                            • May 2010
                            • 3787
                            • Worksop, UK
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Hi David,
                            Yes, mate, it does exactly the same but with a 'pretty' front-end!
                            It was created because some Community members had problems adding these options.

                            Cheers,
                            Ged

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