Brake Cylinder Pressure Not Increasing in Train Monitor

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  • PeterB
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 365
    • Wellington, NZ

    #1

    Brake Cylinder Pressure Not Increasing in Train Monitor

    As per the title. After applying train brakes and with the Train Monitor (F5 key) window open, the brake cylinder pressures remain at 0 PSI, even after waiting for about 4 or 5 minutes after brake application.

    This is surely not realistic as brake cylinder pressures should have at least started to increase on application of the train brake.

    Train brake application set at 35%. Train consists of 4 leading locomotives, 2 locomotives in the middle of the consist, and 2 locomotives on the rear of the approximately 200 car consist.

    Running under Open Rails 1.61.

    Bugged?

    Brake_Cylinder_annotated.png
  • pschlik
    Senior Member



    • Jun 2011
    • 289
    • Missouri
    • MSOR

    #2
    Have you bailed off the locomotive brakes? That would be reflected on the train driving info window.

    Also, the train driving info window just doesn't give much information, the brake page of the (Shift +) Alt + F5 HUD would be much more helpful.

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    • PeterB
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2003
      • 365
      • Wellington, NZ

      #3
      Re-ran the test activity using the same consist and on the same route.

      Got the train up to around 64 mph and then throttled back to idle and then applied train brakes to 35% as before.

      This time the Train Monitor window (F5 key) did show the brake cylinders increasing in pressure but slowly, and pressure values were not corresponding to BC pressure values shown on detailed F5 key status display.

      Waited for about 4 minutes for the train to stop as before. Train Status window (F5 key) did show increased BC pressures but still the pressure values did not match the BC pressure values as shown on detailed F5 status display.

      Why the Train Status window (F5 key) showed 0 PSI for the brake cylinders for the initial run is not clear. I'm fairly certain I didn't touch any other keys after throttling back to idle and then applying the train brake(?)

      brake_cylinder_part_2.png
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      • pschlik
        Senior Member



        • Jun 2011
        • 289
        • Missouri
        • MSOR

        #4
        Your picture is incomplete, seeing just the main res pressure of each locomotive doesn't tell much. But if it's working anyway, there won't be much to see.

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        • PeterB
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2003
          • 365
          • Wellington, NZ

          #5
          How is the screenshot incomplete?

          Screenshot shows the BC pressure status of the locomotives plus the first dozen or so cars.

          I don't think it is possible to show the BC pressure status of all (two hundred) cars in one screenshot(?)

          So, what further information is required then?

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          • duboc
            New Member
            • May 2010
            • 20
            • Charente France

            #6
            In the HUD, go to Forces Informations screen and check the brake friction value.

            Jean-Marc

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            • pschlik
              Senior Member



              • Jun 2011
              • 289
              • Missouri
              • MSOR

              #7
              Originally posted by PeterB
              How is the screenshot incomplete?

              Screenshot shows the BC pressure status of the locomotives plus the first dozen or so cars.

              I don't think it is possible to show the BC pressure status of all (two hundred) cars in one screenshot(?)

              So, what further information is required then?
              The screenshot you have attached is entirely white on the bottom half, all I can see is the main reservoir state for the first 3 locomotives, everything below that is just white pixels.

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              • CSRX
                13500 Post Veteran



                • Oct 2005
                • 13646
                • Lincoln, ME
                • English
                • ORTS

                #8
                Originally posted by pschlik

                The screenshot you have attached is entirely white on the bottom half, all I can see is the main reservoir state for the first 3 locomotives, everything below that is just white pixels.
                On the computer, the whole image shows, but on my phone, I noticed it's cut off as well. A bit strange.
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                • PeterB
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 365
                  • Wellington, NZ

                  #9
                  The png screenshot was taken directly from Open Rails using the Print Screen keyboard key to save the image. No modifications were made to the png screenshot before uploading here.

                  Note that all previous png screenshots taken over the years via Open Rails were fine when the png screenshots were uploaded here at Trainsim. So I'm not sure why this time there seems to be some problem with viewing this latest screenshot.

                  I can view the png screenshot fine on my computer, so I don't know why some are unable to view the screenshot without any image issues.

                  In any case, I have converted the png screenshot to jpg format and uploaded as per below. Maybe this jpg version will allow all to see the image clearly?

                  brake_cylinder_part_2_1.jpg
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                  • PeterB
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 365
                    • Wellington, NZ

                    #10
                    Originally posted by duboc
                    In the HUD, go to Forces Informations screen and check the brake friction value.

                    Jean-Marc
                    Noted, thank you. I will check on this in a while.

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                    • pschlik
                      Senior Member



                      • Jun 2011
                      • 289
                      • Missouri
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PeterB
                      The png screenshot was taken directly from Open Rails using the Print Screen keyboard key to save the image. No modifications were made to the png screenshot before uploading here.

                      Note that all previous png screenshots taken over the years via Open Rails were fine when the png screenshots were uploaded here at Trainsim. So I'm not sure why this time there seems to be some problem with viewing this latest screenshot.

                      I can view the png screenshot fine on my computer, so I don't know why some are unable to view the screenshot without any image issues.

                      In any case, I have converted the png screenshot to jpg format and uploaded as per below. Maybe this jpg version will allow all to see the image clearly?

                      brake_cylinder_part_2_1.jpg
                      Definitely works now. Those results are nominal, so nothing to worry about for now.

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