How do you make this Gee-Who work?????

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  • bootednancy
    Senior Member

    • Jun 2003
    • 549
    • New Jersey, United States

    #1

    How do you make this Gee-Who work?????

    Greetings guys.....I have NO idea how I got this in my Open Rails program....BUT last night I was in an activity and getting ready to drop off a car, make a pickup qand go back and reassemble the train.....I went for the F9 key to bring up the train consist screen so I could do what I needed, uncouple, air hoses, open/close angle cocks and open the coupler, but I was confronted by THIS............I tried clicking on everything I could but nothing has responded like it did in the old F9 screen that I had installed with semi-transparent Driver Aids.

    Since there is no more Driver Aids folder and icon files HOW DO I GET RID OF THIS GARBAGE AND GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL SCREENS so I can do the task this Gee-Who will not let me do as the older system seems far more simple than whatever it takes to make this one work.



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    Any help or instruction to make it work, or better yet, get rid of it and back to the old system is greatly appreciated. I always HATE when computer programs get "updated" or rework, because they always become 10 times more complicated and DON'T WORK

    Doug

    Happiness is when the AI-trains appear where you want them to
  • kapitaen
    Senior Member

    • May 2010
    • 331
    • Germany
    • German + a little bit English
    • MSOR

    #2
    Hello Doug,

    that could help.

    Jan

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    • bootednancy
      Senior Member

      • Jun 2003
      • 549
      • New Jersey, United States

      #3
      Thank you Kapitaen......will download & look up........I'm not the only one not pleased with this "new set-up" as I have read.....but the Kapitaen "Knows all"
      I was also thinking of ripping this OR 1.6.1 version out and reinstalling an older version I have saved that should put me back to the transparent driver aids I set up when the GUI folder was left in. Far easier to work with....drop down menu for each car & engine....uncouple couplers, uncouple/couple hoses, open/close forward/rear angle cocks.
      Doug

      Happiness is when the AI-trains appear where you want them to

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      • Snowman
        Senior Member


        • Apr 2001
        • 214

        #4
        Originally posted by bootednancy
        I'm not the only one not pleased with this "new set-up"
        Hmm I see what you mean, but to me it was never very intuitive. I see where they're going, but it's overly complicated. How about going between two locomotives and brining up a decouple screen would activate a visual hose and angle cock between engines/cars that is visually intuitive. Close the menu and the virtual semi transparent air hose wont come up if you go between the cars. F9 would then be a simple visual aid. Either way at least someone is trying to do something different.

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        • eric
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          • Dec 2002
          • 9583
          • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
          • English, SQL
          • General

          #5
          I agree that it got way complicated.

          ORTS might benefit ( and possibly avoid alienating longtime users) by having a simple mode for those of us that just don't need the Run8 level of complexity in train operations.

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          • CSRX
            13500 Post Veteran



            • Oct 2005
            • 13646
            • Lincoln, ME
            • English
            • ORTS

            #6
            This is the one thing I do really like about the new consist view in ORTS... Maybe because it finally gives us the ability to isolate/shut down units without several clicks of a menu button, and an easy way to partially open the air without dumping the train completely like it times past.....
            -Shawn K-
            MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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            • bootednancy
              Senior Member

              • Jun 2003
              • 549
              • New Jersey, United States

              #7
              Well, Eric........this is one LONG TIME (2001) user who HAS BEEN ALIENATED.....they should K-I-S-S and uncomplicate it........those of us who are real railroaders know crews DO NOT SWITCH C ARS the way this "new" F9 function is laid out..........no matter what I click on, I can't get it to work....Mouse + U DOES NOT UNCOUPLE CARS..............
              real crew will set a hand brake on what will be left standing and close the end angle cock....other crew man will pull the cut lever and signal engineer to back away letting the air hoses stretch and part on their own...........as the couple of replies I have gotten, OR made it FAR TOO COMPLICATED, AND ESPECIALLY CHANGING COMMANDS
              Doug

              Happiness is when the AI-trains appear where you want them to

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              • CSRX
                13500 Post Veteran



                • Oct 2005
                • 13646
                • Lincoln, ME
                • English
                • ORTS

                #8
                You can do all that you mentioned, with this new lay-out for the F9 key function.

                I guess it is time for me to do another "How-To" video for the YouTube ORTS How To series of mine...
                -Shawn K-
                MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
                ​

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                • geepster775
                  2500 Post Veteran


                  • Sep 2006
                  • 2846
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                  #9
                  All they did was replace words with graphics

                  Originally posted by bootednancy
                  ...they should K-I-S-S and uncomplicate it
                  No need to channel ragtimer
                  My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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                  • JSMR
                    Active Member
                    • Apr 2025
                    • 276
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    On first use I didn't like it. BUt its grown on me. Looking at the manual helped.
                    It would be pretty cool though to make some of it automated but not instant. How long does it take in the real world to walk along and hook up the air hoses and release or engage the handbrakes ? I can do it pretty quick with shift / or a few clicks of the mouse. But not quite realistic.

                    Perhaps a new feature where you select the option to couple the air and release the handbrakes. Add a few options. Real time, Quick coupe and Instant.
                    Who doesn't like sitting there for 30 mins+ waiting for all of that to happen?

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                    • scottb613
                      2500 Post Veteran


                      • Apr 2003
                      • 2848
                      • Downeast Maine (soon)
                      • ORTS

                      #11
                      Hi Folks,

                      Before the updated HUD - you needed to access three different screens to access all the information needed to switch cars. Now it’s all in one place - if you don’t like it simply use the cheat [Shft /] as it will set everything right on your consist - no?

                      Regards,
                      Scott
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                      • eric
                        9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                        • Dec 2002
                        • 9583
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                        #12
                        I do miss Ragtimer. Kept things real....

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                        • crabby541
                          New Member
                          • Jan 2024
                          • 5
                          • Oregon
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          Ctrl + Alt + F9, will bring up the old train operations window...the screen I believe bootednancy is trying to find, in the 1.6 version.

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                          • slipperman
                            3500 Post Veteran



                            • May 2010
                            • 3787
                            • Worksop, UK
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Originally posted by crabby541
                            Ctrl + Alt + F9, will bring up the old train operations window...the screen I believe bootednancy is trying to find, in the 1.6 version.
                            Thank you for that very useful hint!
                            Then just press Shift+/ to initialise the brakes - I know, please don't tell me that's cheating!!

                            Cheers,
                            Ged

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                            • bootednancy
                              Senior Member

                              • Jun 2003
                              • 549
                              • New Jersey, United States

                              #15
                              sHAWN.......TIME I GUESS FOR A NEW INSTRUCTIONAL......MANUAL IS VERY OBTUSE ABOUT ANY INFORMATION IN THIS SECTION
                              dOUG
                              Doug

                              Happiness is when the AI-trains appear where you want them to

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