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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #106
    Good Morning everybody. hope everybody Is well.

    Here Is my latest unsuccessful Run of Thames Trent Version 3 as a Mini-Route.

    Log File Attached:- OpenRailsLog.zip

    I appreciate everybody's Views about Purchasing some new Speakers, However, I don't understand why
    I should be buying speakers when this Panasonic 32" TV has been used for about Ten Years as my Monitor
    with MSTS Without any Problems. The Problems happening with the Sound are only a recent thing.

    The other thing Is, If anybody out their Is using Wireless Speakers, I spend most of my days, all day on
    MSTS. what am I talking about battery life.

    Hope everything Is OK.

    Thanks

    Paul.

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    • derekmorton
      5500 Post Veteran



      • Nov 1999
      • 5699
      • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
      • ORTS

      #107
      As someone has mentioned, ORNYMG has an option to turn off the watchdog timer.
      This will stop the sound crashes.

      I too had sound crashed on my last machine and that is why I started using ORNYMG.

      Your mini route crash is the sound process hang.

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      • baldwin
        6000 Post Veteran


        • Nov 1999
        • 6358
        • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
        • ORTS

        #108
        Paul

        You are not alone in having sound problems while running the 1.5 and1.6.1 versions of OR. As I have pointed out your problem has nothing to do with hardware, it is a software problem. OR contains a bit of code called watchdog that keeps an eye on code execution within the program. If it detects that any process is taking too long to run a command, it kills the whole program. In your case for whatever reason it is the sound process at fault/
        The ORNYMG version has an option to turn this watchdog off. It can be found at Conteggio download di file where the top file is the latest version. If you decide to try it, you might get a warning that there is a virus present, this is a false warning, the file is completely safe as many of us who use it can confirm. If you do download it, you can install it without removing other versions of OR, let us know you have installed it and we will tell you how to turn watchdog off before you try it.

        Mervyn
        Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #109
          Good Morning Derek and Mervyn, thank you both for your replies.

          I have now Dowmloaded "Conteggio download di file" which Is now sat on my Desktop ready to try out, thank you, hope I don't mess It up.

          Thanks

          Paul.

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          • pcohen
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #110
            At the moment I have extracted "OR_NewYear_MG" to Drive C: Overwriting Open Rails.

            Is this Correct please?

            Thanks

            Paul

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            • pcohen
              1000 Post Veteran


              • Jul 2007
              • 1294
              • Wrexham North Wales UK

              #111
              Hears a silly one please.

              How do you add a Packaged Activity like "The London And Dorset Wanderer" To a Mini_Route please?

              thanks

              Paul.

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              • slipperman
                3500 Post Veteran



                • May 2010
                • 3787
                • Worksop, UK
                • MSOR

                #112
                Hi Paul,
                How do you add a Packaged Activity like "The London And Dorset Wanderer" To a Mini_Route please?
                Use APKExtractor (file ID 82202); there is also a revised readme at file ID 86936 which I recommend that you read first.

                Cheers,
                Ged

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                • pcohen
                  1000 Post Veteran


                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1294
                  • Wrexham North Wales UK

                  #113
                  Hello again Ged.

                  82202 comes up with something for Indian Railways, but have 86936.

                  Thanks

                  Paul.

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                  • slipperman
                    3500 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 3787
                    • Worksop, UK
                    • MSOR

                    #114
                    Hi Paul,
                    Sorry, mate, I must be turning dyslectic in my old age!
                    The correct ID is 82022,

                    Cheers,
                    Ged

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                    • baldwin
                      6000 Post Veteran


                      • Nov 1999
                      • 6358
                      • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                      • ORTS

                      #115
                      Originally posted by pcohen
                      At the moment I have extracted "OR_NewYear_MG" to Drive C: Overwriting Open Rails.

                      Is this Correct please?

                      Thanks

                      Paul
                      Hi Paul,
                      Far as I am aware, a straight extraction of the NYMG file will create a separate folder where you will find the same named files that you already use to run the 1.6.1 version. Just create a new shortcut on your desktop to run the NYMG version. Once you have it running we will get Watchdog turned off.

                      Mervyn
                      Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                      • pcohen
                        1000 Post Veteran


                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1294
                        • Wrexham North Wales UK

                        #116
                        Hi Mervyn.

                        Thanks very much, very much appreciated.

                        Paul.

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                        • pcohen
                          1000 Post Veteran


                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1294
                          • Wrexham North Wales UK

                          #117
                          Good morning all.

                          Yet again I have completed (using the new version OR_NewYear_MG) The Activity "The Twins To Sheffield" In the Route Thames-Trent V.3. In One go with no saves.

                          Not sure whether this Is the same as OR Version 1.6.1.

                          The only thing Is with the Watchdog box unchecked/turned off Is this actually covering any faults please?

                          The other thing after many, many Years Is, I didn't realise how easy It was to create Mini-Routes.

                          Problem now Is, Do I use MSTS Mini-Routes or ORTSContent to run MSTS with It's Routes and Activities.

                          Log File Attached:- OpenRailsLog.zip

                          Many thanks

                          Paul.

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                          • baldwin
                            6000 Post Veteran


                            • Nov 1999
                            • 6358
                            • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                            • ORTS

                            #118
                            Hi Paul
                            Glad to see you have had a no fault run using ORNYMG. Turning Watchdog off does not mask any genuine faults, it just removes the code from trying to solve a non-problem.

                            I think it is time to give you the understanding of the various versions. 1.6.1 is called the stable or safe version. This never changes until the next stable version is released. During the time between stable releases there are two other versions that are release, Unstable on a weekly basis and testing on usually a daily basis but sometimes can be a longer or shorter timeframe. Although the Unstable is called that, it really is a quite stable set of code and incorporates whatever the testing version has shown to work. Testing is out on the bleeding edge of OR development rather like a rolling alpha version.

                            The NYMG version is based on a particular Unstable version, but always includes things that are not in the mainstream versions.

                            There is very little difference between an MSTS and an OR "mini-route" setup. In OR they are called Profiles and do not contain anything code related to MSTS. Far as your MSTS setup is concerned, I would add it to your OR Profiles and use OR to run it/them. No need whatsoever to use MSTS. The ORTSContent as you call it, is merely a base for making OR type mini-routes without the MSTS "baggage", it is OR itself that runs the content. You could for example set up an OR profile that has all of your favourite routes and rolling stock, you can have as many different profiles as your disc space allows, all available to run from a single OR menu.

                            Mervyn
                            Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                            • pcohen
                              1000 Post Veteran


                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1294
                              • Wrexham North Wales UK

                              #119
                              Good Afternoon Mervyn, many thanks for your reply.

                              Would still like to try out the Two Routes, Thames-Trent and Dorset Coast as Mini Routes now I have worked out how to do them.

                              Thanks

                              Paul.

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                              • oper190
                                1000 Post Veteran



                                • May 2010
                                • 1498
                                • Port Charlotte, FL
                                • English
                                • MSOR

                                #120
                                Paul - There is no problem in making "Mini Routes" but they are totally unnecessary for use with OpenRails. They were done to help MSTS run better by limiting what MSTS loaded into memory at start up so it would run better. OR limits what is loads on it's own. All you are really doing is duplicating some of the folders with each "Mini Route" and requiring to point OR to each of of them.

                                If it's what you want to do, go for it, it's not hurting anything nor helping either.
                                Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                                Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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