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  • slipperman
    3500 Post Veteran



    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #16
    Hi Paul,
    You won't find v2 anywhere, except if you'd previously downloaded it when it was current, like I did!
    As I mentioned in a previous post, "The Twins St Pancras to Sheffield" activity IS included in the Thames Trent v3 download so you don't have to search around for something which no longer exists!
    The grief you're experiencing is not to do with the activity (as Mervyn posted, the v2 act will run OK in v3) but to do with something on your PC - Sound thread hung.

    Cheers,
    Ged

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    • oper190
      1000 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 1498
      • Port Charlotte, FL
      • English
      • MSOR

      #17
      Just installed the Route into OR and tried an Explore, after installing UKFS track system, though the Route loads the OR log has got a ton of Track node errors, and World file errors.
      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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      • pcohen
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Jul 2007
        • 1294
        • Wrexham North Wales UK

        #18
        Hi Ged, me again.

        Have gone back to the Thames Trent Version 3 Route and started It again afresh with the Activity:-

        "The Twins to Sheffield". Ran to MileMarker 9/10 before crashing to the Desktop.

        As Far as I am aware The Rolling Stock required for this Activity Is most definetely In place.

        Using your MSTS_ActAman I am getting the following results, Hope this helps:-

        The Twins To Sheffield selected and following boxes checked

        Check selected Activity ---- Nothing to report.

        Check all Activities ---- Nothing to report.

        Selected Activity Files Used ---- 3 Columns all present (no Colour changes)

        Stock used by selected Activity ---- All present (no colour changes)

        Stock used by all Activities In Installation All present (no colour changes)

        Don't think I require any of the other Boxes.

        OpenRailsLog.zip

        Many thanks

        Paul.

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        • crstagg
          4500 Post Veteran


          • Nov 1999
          • 4885
          • Huntsville, AL
          • Texan
          • MSOR

          #19
          Paul,
          At the end of your log file it says:
          "Error: Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.ThreadHangException: Thread 'Sound Process' has hung;:"
          All of the activity's rolling stock may be present, BUT some of the SOUNDS for the rolling stock are not present.
          Charles

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          • pcohen
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #20
            Hi Charles, thanks for reply.

            Really don't know where to go from here.

            The Rolling Stock, Cab & Sounds that I have saved over many Years Are still Complete, don't know whether to give the whole thing up.

            Many thanks for the help.

            Paul.

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            • crstagg
              4500 Post Veteran


              • Nov 1999
              • 4885
              • Huntsville, AL
              • Texan
              • MSOR

              #21
              Originally posted by pcohen
              Hi Charles, thanks for reply.

              Really don't know where to go from here.
              .....................Paul.
              ????? How many years have you had ConBuilder? When was the last time you tested your TrainSet with ConBuilder with the Test Sound option checked?

              Charles

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              • pcohen
                1000 Post Veteran


                • Jul 2007
                • 1294
                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                #22
                Hi Charles, thanks again.

                here's the surprise, I didn't know you could use ConBuilder to test things, I have only ever used it to build Consists of my Own, so wouldn't know where to Start.

                Will have to go through the Readme Files.

                Thanks

                Paul.

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                • oper190
                  1000 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 1498
                  • Port Charlotte, FL
                  • English
                  • MSOR

                  #23
                  Originally posted by baldwin
                  Twins to Sheffield for v2 will run on both version 2 and version 3
                  Just completed a test and yes the V2 Activity will run in Ver 3 - just for info I changed the V2 Activity, Player Service, Player Path, and Traffic file names, and all the sub naming within them, ( what PIA ), but now have both Activities side by side available to run and test, I also replaced consists with ones I already had, so they'd load and run. They both load and run with no errors now, other than the track nodes and some amination errors, which OR seems to ignore or at least work around.
                  Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                  Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                  • pcohen
                    1000 Post Veteran


                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1294
                    • Wrexham North Wales UK

                    #24
                    Hi Geary, thanks for your reply again.

                    Unfortunately your quote, "just for info I changed the V2 Activity, Player Service, Player Path, and Traffic file names, and all the sub naming within them"

                    Means nothing to me, I wouldn't know what to Change?

                    Many thanks

                    Paul.

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                    • crstagg
                      4500 Post Veteran


                      • Nov 1999
                      • 4885
                      • Huntsville, AL
                      • Texan
                      • MSOR

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pcohen
                      Hi Charles, thanks again.

                      here's the surprise, I didn't know you could use ConBuilder to test things, I have only ever used it to build Consists of my Own, so wouldn't know where to Start.

                      Will have to go through the Readme Files.

                      Thanks

                      Paul.
                      I the back of my mind I seem remember when I was running the ConBuilder forum telling you or maybe some other person how to test Trainset files.

                      1. Open ConBuilder pointed at the Train install you wish to test.
                      2. Don't know how you could not see this, but on the top in the middle of the menu is the wort "Tests". Click on it.
                      3. Choose "Missing Files" from the list.
                      4. A Dialog window will open That looks like:
                      image.png
                      Click on the Engines or the Wagons buttons (I have clicked on the Engines) and the list will populate.
                      5. Below the list are 2 buttons with a box outlined one has an X and the other is blank. X selects all items listed. Blank unselects all. Or you can selectively choose which Engines/Wagons to test.
                      6. Next click the box on the top right labeled "Test sound files"
                      7. Now click "Start Test" and the 2 lower boxes will populate and the counters on the bottom will indicate the #s.
                      image.png
                      8. When test is complete another dialog will open to allow you to choose which results to view.
                      9. Click in the button labeled "Sound files"
                      10. That will open a text file listing the errors.
                      11. For your problems you need to scroll the list till you find a "Sound Definition file missing" Error
                      They look like this:
                      -----------------------------------------------------------------------
                      [SOUND DEFINITION FILE - Missing]
                      The engine CONENGNAMEERROR.ENG is missing its SOUND folder or it does not exist where the file ..\\..\\SandpatchRequired\\EMDLocoSound\\TurboEMDe ng3.sms
                      should exist. The complete path is as follows:
                      B:\CB-TEST\TRAINS\TRAINSET\CON ENGINE NAME ERROR\
                      The error was found on this line: Sound ( "..\\..\\SandpatchRequired\\EMDLocoSound\\Turb oEMD eng3.sms" )
                      -------------------------------------------------------------​
                      The important part of the Error message is found in the last line. For my example this tells me that I am missing the sound files from the Sandpatch EMD Loco that I should have downloaded and installed. Also the line that lists the ENG or WAG file with the error could point you to which download required what sound package. You will have to interpret your error messages as I have no idea what you have failed to install. That is why when ConBuilder Forum was active we posted a best practice to test after installing each addition to your Trainset.

                      While scrolling the list of errors you may notice errors for missing WAV (WAVE) files. Ignore those errors until you have corrected the SMS file errors. Retest after you have corrected the missing SMS Sound Definition files.
                      Charles

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                      • oper190
                        1000 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 1498
                        • Port Charlotte, FL
                        • English
                        • MSOR

                        #26
                        Originally posted by pcohen
                        Means nothing to me, I wouldn't know what to Change?
                        That was just to clearify what I did, for testing, to be sure either version of the activity will work so I had both Activities active at the same time.
                        Last edited by oper190; 02-03-2026, 16:05.
                        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                        • oper190
                          1000 Post Veteran



                          • May 2010
                          • 1498
                          • Port Charlotte, FL
                          • English
                          • MSOR

                          #27
                          Originally posted by pcohen
                          The Rolling Stock, Cab & Sounds that I have saved over many Years Are still Complete,
                          Paul in that regard - that's great, but does not mean you may need additional sound downloads for new rolling stock. You have to look at installation instructions, Readme or any Document files that come with a download for information that might tell you what additional things are required. Also the description of the download in the library may say things like Sound and Cabview files xyz are required.
                          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                          • pcohen
                            1000 Post Veteran


                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1294
                            • Wrexham North Wales UK

                            #28
                            Hi everbody.

                            I have now Run again THAMES TRENT V3 with the corrected Version 3 Activity "The Twins to Sheffield".

                            Well, I didn't have much luck with ConBuilder Checking this.

                            It came up with a list of errors but when asked to choose an editor, but when I chose WordPad but It didn't respond with Anything.

                            So I used Ged's MSTS_ActMan and found a Couple of Consist errors, where the Information Didn't match, and Put these Right.

                            Ran the route again and almost got to the end (25 Minutes left to go) then crashed to Desktop.

                            I am guessing this is still a Sound problem?

                            Many thanks

                            OpenRailsLog (2).zip

                            Paul.

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                            • crstagg
                              4500 Post Veteran


                              • Nov 1999
                              • 4885
                              • Huntsville, AL
                              • Texan
                              • MSOR

                              #29
                              Yes "Error: Orts.Viewer3D.Processes.ThreadHangException: Thread 'Sound Process' has hung"

                              ConBuilder choose NotePad vice WordPad

                              Charles

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                              • kapitaen
                                Senior Member

                                • May 2010
                                • 331
                                • Germany
                                • German + a little bit English
                                • MSOR

                                #30
                                It is possible that updating the audio driver could help.

                                https://www.trainsim.com/forums/foru...has-hung-error

                                https://www.elvastower.com/forums/in...age__p__324207

                                Jan

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