Better Prime Mover Sound for DDA40X Locomotives?

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  • meeshu
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 373

    #1

    Better Prime Mover Sound for DDA40X Locomotives?

    The DDA40X locomotives apparently used engine model 16-645 E3A for the locomotives' two engines.

    I have two prime mover sounds for the DDA40X; the engine sounds from TrainSimulations UP Trainsets Vol 1, and from the File Library, from file mlw645turbo.zip.

    Problem is that both of these engine sounds are not (quite) right. The TrainSimulations engine sounds are low frequency muffled type of sounds, not really realistic at all. And the File Library engine file sounds are sort of a high pitched whistling/whining, which is not really realistic either, but slightly better than the TrainSimulations engine sounds.

    Are there better more realistic engine sounds for the DDA40X available?
    Last edited by meeshu; 01-20-2026, 05:26.
  • geepster775
    2500 Post Veteran


    • Sep 2006
    • 2846
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    #2
    engine sounds are low frequency muffled type of sounds, not really realistic at all.
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    they appear to be somewhat distorted/muddled and hardly represent the actual locomotive sounds
    but the run 2 wav sounds like a swish swish swish . . sound which is way off on what I expected to hear.
    but there is a noticeable high frequency (hiss) component especially for the mid and low engine rpms

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    Note to self:

    Never waste time trying to satisfy matters of someone else's extreme personal taste. Earlier suggestions regarding AC4400s were offered, none accepted, had a workable solution all along on another hard drive.

    No wonder "real" advances with this simulator, and any resultant new user influx, are stuck in molasses. Everybody spins their wheels helping a guy who never heard a DDA40X in 1970s real life anyway.
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    • dcarleton
      1000 Post Veteran


      • Nov 2008
      • 1004
      • MSOR

      #3
      A DDA40X sounded like two GP40s together. (I was there.)
      Look for a sound set that sounds correct according to your ears and according to your sound system.
      Since nobody here has your ears or your sound system, the choice is all yours.

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      • meeshu
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 373

        #4
        Thank you so much for the very helpful responses!

        I don't have any other sources for the DDA40X engine sounds anywhere else here.

        EDIT:
        Just downloaded file emd40sn.zip from the File Library here. These engine sounds are far more realistic than the other engine sounds I already have. Thanks to dcarleton for reminding me that the prime movers used in DDA40X locomotives are essentially the same as in GP40 and similar locomotives. I will definitely use these engine sounds for my DDA40X locomotives.
        Last edited by meeshu; 01-20-2026, 11:01.

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        • duke1234
          Member

          • Aug 2013
          • 49
          • Onalaska, WI

          #5
          Originally posted by geepster775

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          Note to self:

          Never waste time trying to satisfy matters of someone else's extreme personal taste. Earlier suggestions regarding AC4400s were offered, none accepted, had a workable solution all along on another hard drive.

          No wonder "real" advances with this simulator, and any resultant new user influx, are stuck in molasses. Everybody spins their wheels helping a guy who never heard a DDA40X in 1970s real life anyway.
          Did you wake up on the wrong side of the main or something lmao?
          You ain't stopping at this hotel, kid. My hotel! The stars at night, I put 'em there. And I know the presidents, all of them. And I go where I d*** well please. Even the chairman of the New York Central can't do it better. My road, kid, and I don't give lessons and I don't take partners. -Lee Marvin

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          • niknak
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            • Nov 1999
            • 1254
            • UK.
            • MSOR

            #6
            Ah 'The Emperor Of The North'.....What a film!
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            • duke1234
              Member

              • Aug 2013
              • 49
              • Onalaska, WI

              #7
              Good catch! Im so excited for my movie model Brass 19 in HO to arrive! Division Point just made them!
              You ain't stopping at this hotel, kid. My hotel! The stars at night, I put 'em there. And I know the presidents, all of them. And I go where I d*** well please. Even the chairman of the New York Central can't do it better. My road, kid, and I don't give lessons and I don't take partners. -Lee Marvin

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              • CSRX
                13500 Post Veteran



                • Oct 2005
                • 13646
                • Lincoln, ME
                • English
                • ORTS

                #8
                Originally posted by meeshu
                Thank you so much for the very helpful responses!

                I don't have any other sources for the DDA40X engine sounds anywhere else here.

                EDIT:
                Just downloaded file emd40sn.zip from the File Library here. These engine sounds are far more realistic than the other engine sounds I already have. Thanks to dcarleton for reminding me that the prime movers used in DDA40X locomotives are essentially the same as in GP40 and similar locomotives. I will definitely use these engine sounds for my DDA40X locomotives.
                Those are extremely dated, and there are much better sounds available, to today's standards.

                Including the recent EMD sounds from TrainSimulations.

                But, don't forget, not every single GP38-2 or GP40-2 sound the same, believe it or not. All depends on whether spark arrestors are added, wear and shape of the cylinders. Missing cylinders or misfiring of them, even taking a turbo out and putting a roots blown set up into a locomotive, will make an different sound. Age is a huge factor too.

                But.. again, I only run them for a living.


                I would suggest these, especially if you are using ORTS.

                By far, these are the best available sounds to date, for the EMD 645 turbo series. emd645e3.zip
                -Shawn K-
                MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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                • Orbita
                  Senior Member

                  • Oct 2020
                  • 324
                  • Somewhere on the NYC Water Level Route surrounded by corn
                  • English, Limited French
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  There are some solid 645 sounds from NAVS. IIRC they are the E3 turbocharged variant.
                  Kyle

                  NYC - Road of the Future

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                  • CSRX
                    13500 Post Veteran



                    • Oct 2005
                    • 13646
                    • Lincoln, ME
                    • English
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Orbita
                    There are some solid 645 sounds from NAVS. IIRC they are the E3 turbocharged variant.
                    Correct, those are the ones I mentioned above, in this package. emd645e3.zip
                    -Shawn K-
                    MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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