New Route "USA_NCR32". Help with please?

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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #16
    Good morning Ged, thanks, I did get your message before I went out last Night.

    But, I have another problem!

    This Morning, after starting my Computer as normal, I found It would not run correctly i.e

    the main Desktop Picture was very Grainy ( for lack of better words ) and was jumping all over the place.

    This continued for several Re-starts before finally settling down. So not sure how long this will last now!

    If It goes again I think I will have to Install a New Windows 10.

    Will do nothing with this until I get reply with some advice please.

    Many thanks

    Paul.

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    • slipperman
      3500 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 3787
      • Worksop, UK
      • MSOR

      #17
      Good Morning, Paul,
      If your Desktop is 'grainy', I would suggest that it's something concerning your graphics card. Have you changed any of its settings? If your PC is not a laptop, it could be a problem with your monitor. There are so many things it could be but I doubt if reinstalling Windows will have much effect.

      Cheers,
      Ged

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      • ossie
        1000 Post Veteran and Moderator



        • May 2010
        • 1298
        • Melbourne, Australia
        • MSOR

        #18
        Originally posted by pcohen
        ....was jumping all over the place.....
        A quick check to make sure your monitor cable is still properly connected also wouldn't hurt Paul.
        Cheers!
        Pete

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #19
          Hi Ged, tanks again.

          I have made no changes to my Computer for quite sometime. but It is currently running OK after the several restarts.

          Going back to my Route, I have tried so many different attempts to run this recently, that I no longer no which version I am running.

          The Route Is running perfectly and I have run It from Arcarta - Willetts non-stop, with no saves and It appears to be OK.

          Thanks

          Paul.

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          • pcohen
            1000 Post Veteran


            • Jul 2007
            • 1294
            • Wrexham North Wales UK

            #20
            Hi Ossie, thanks for that.

            Much appreciated.

            Paul.

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            • pcohen
              1000 Post Veteran


              • Jul 2007
              • 1294
              • Wrexham North Wales UK

              #21


              Hi Geary, Compliments of the Season to you and your Family.

              I Have done hopefully, all you have instructed As far as the copy and rename the Route Folder USA_NCR31 into a new Route Folder named "USA_NCR32" . But there In no "Install_31.bat" only an "Install_act.bat".

              Will try out Version 3.1 to see what happens, before proceeding to Version 3.2.

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              • crstagg
                4500 Post Veteran


                • Nov 1999
                • 4885
                • Huntsville, AL
                • Texan
                • MSOR

                #22
                Originally posted by pcohen

                ''''''''''''''' But there In no "Install_31.bat" only an "Install_act.bat".

                ..................
                Then what is this?

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                Charles

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                • pcohen
                  1000 Post Veteran


                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1294
                  • Wrexham North Wales UK

                  #23
                  Hello Charles , thanks very much for your reply.

                  Sorry, but this "2014_01_17 3 USA_NCr31/Install_31.Bat" Is not In the Route File.

                  I have run Version 1 for about 15 Minutes and now Installed Version 3.2 Plus the Wooden Mill update ncr32_scotiaupdate.zip

                  But unfortunately, It only Ran for 10 Minutes before crashing to Desktop.

                  Sure I am doing everything as told, correctly.

                  Log File attached:- OpenRailsLog.zip

                  Many thanks

                  Paul.

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                  • oper190
                    1000 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 1498
                    • Port Charlotte, FL
                    • English
                    • MSOR

                    #24
                    Originally posted by pcohen
                    But there In no "Install_31.bat" only an "Install_act.bat".
                    Paul then you are installing ncr32 not ncr31, so are doing it out of order.
                    To be clear, NCR ver3 is six zip files, ncr3_1.zip, through ncr3_6.zip, and will give you a route folder: USA_NCR3
                    NCR ver3.1 uses only ncr31.zip and will render a Route Folder: USA_NCR31 - that contains "Install_31.bat"
                    NCR ver3.2 uses only ncr32.zip and will render a Route Folder: USA_NCR32 - that contains "Install_act.bat"

                    For clarity here is the contents of the ncr31.zip:
                    USA_NCR32 contents.jpg
                    As explained prior, each update has to be installed into the complete route folder of the prior version, over writing files when asked.
                    1) Copy and Renamed your Route Folder USA_NCR3 to USA_NCR31, then pasting the contents of the ver3.1 updated folder into it, over writing when asked, then run Install_31.bat ( you must have the 6 default routes installed ) and check that the route works.
                    2) Copy and Rename your Route Folder USA_NCR31 to USA_NCR32, then paste the contents of the ver3.2 update folder into it, over writing when asked, then run Install_act.bat ( this updates them to the new route's tracks and folder, or they will not work ). For the activities to work your Route Folder MUST be named USA_NCR32.
                    Then add the sawmill update if you want.
                    Doing it this way insures you keep working copies of the original ver3 and ver3.1 to fall back on. I'd store them somewhere for safe keeping.
                    Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                    Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                    • oper190
                      1000 Post Veteran



                      • May 2010
                      • 1498
                      • Port Charlotte, FL
                      • English
                      • MSOR

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pcohen
                      Log File attached:- OpenRailsLog.zip

                      Many thanks
                      Paul from what I see it is a sound problem with the Trainset you are using. Suggest trying to run with a different, known to be good and working consist.
                      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                      • pcohen
                        1000 Post Veteran


                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1294
                        • Wrexham North Wales UK

                        #26
                        Hi Geary, thanks again for your reply.

                        This Is what I have and what I am doing:-

                        I have 9 Files

                        ncr3_1
                        ncr3_2
                        ncr3_3
                        ncr3_4
                        ncr3_5
                        ncr3_6

                        The above 6 files create a Route File called USA_NCR3. I then try out the Route to see if It works

                        ncr31, ncr32, These two Files are Installed separately to see If they work OK

                        Followed by:-

                        ncr32_scotiaupdate

                        Thanks

                        Paul.

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                        • baldwin
                          6000 Post Veteran


                          • Nov 1999
                          • 6358
                          • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                          • ORTS

                          #27
                          Hi Paul
                          ncr31, ncr32 are not complete routes. They are upgrade files. Geary has laid out what you need to do to move from 3 to 3.1 and then 3.2.

                          ​​​​​​Mervyn
                          Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                          • pcohen
                            1000 Post Veteran


                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1294
                            • Wrexham North Wales UK

                            #28
                            Hi Mervyn, me again.

                            I am sorry to be a nuisance with this Route.

                            I have deleted and reinstalled this Route as per Instructions.

                            I do know that ncr31.zip & ncr32.zip are updates to the Route

                            There Is no Install.bat with this Route (checked and rechecked) only the "Install_act.bat."

                            ( To Install_act.bat Four optional activities are included with the route. To install them, run "Install_act.bat.")

                            Also In the readme file for this Route there Is mention of somethings already Installed In a Previous Route, do I need
                            any previous Routes for this to run.

                            Another thought, this route Installs as folder "USA_NCR31" so I don't have to rename the Folder?

                            Thanks again

                            Paul.
                            Last edited by pcohen; 12-31-2025, 02:31.

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                            • slipperman
                              3500 Post Veteran



                              • May 2010
                              • 3787
                              • Worksop, UK
                              • MSOR

                              #29
                              Hi Paul,
                              You are STILL not following instructions given by at least two of us!

                              1. (a) Install USA_NCR3 from its 6 zip files.
                              1. (b) To avoid complications, add XTracks 3.20 and NewRoads 4.0 NOW.
                              1. (c) If you REALLY want to run the supplied activities, run install_act.bat. If not, do not run it.
                              1. (d) Run route USA_NCR3 to make sure it runs without errors. If so, continue with 2, otherwise, fix any errors before continuing..

                              2. (a) Make a copy of the USA_NCR3 folder in the ROUTES folder and rename it to USA_NCR31.
                              2. (b) Unpack ncr31.zip and copy the resulting USA_NCR31 folder into the ROUTES folder, allowing all overwrites.
                              2. (c) Run install_31.bat
                              2. (d) Run route USA_NCR31 to make sure it runs without errors. If so, continue with 3, otherwise, fix any errors before continuing.

                              3. (a) Make a copy of the USA_NCR31 folder in the ROUTES folder and rename it to USA_NCR32.
                              3. (b) Unpack ncr32.zip and copy the resulting USA_NCR32 folder into the ROUTES folder, allowing all overwrites
                              3. (c) Run Install_act.bat. This enables the supplied activities to be run in USA_NCR32
                              3. (d) Run route USA_NCR32 to make sure it runs without any errors. If so, continue with 4, otherwise, fix any errors before continuing.

                              4. (a) If you want to add the ncr32_scotiaupdate, unpack its .zip file and copy the resulting folder USA_NCR32 into the ROUTES folder, allowing any overwrites.
                              4. (b) You don't need USA_NCR3 and USA_NCR31 folders any more, so, as already suggested, move them out of the ROUTES folder and save them elsewhere, or, you can even delete them!

                              Cheers,
                              Ged
                              Last edited by slipperman; 12-31-2025, 08:49.

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                              • pcohen
                                1000 Post Veteran


                                • Jul 2007
                                • 1294
                                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                                #30
                                Good Morning Ged, Happy new Year to you and your family!

                                Right, hope I have It right this Time?

                                Before, I was saying there Is no install_31.bat in NCR3 but didn't realise that It had to be Run from within the Route copy Folder after installing NCR31.xip. Is this correct please.

                                Ran both NCR3 & NCR31 for 30 Minutes which both seemed to be running with no problems.

                                Now about to try out NCR32 to see what happens.

                                Many thanks

                                Paul.

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