New Route "USA_NCR32". Help with please?

[pcohen]

Hi everybody, compliments of the season to everybody.

I am trying to Run The following New Route "USA_NCR32".However, as usual I am having problems running It.

How do I please, Run any of the Following, In ORTSContent If required?

UKTS_39174_XTracks, newroads_files, default-track-atrack-01apr25, tsection60, scalerail, scaleroad, UKTS_2807_UKST_pt1_v1-12,
UKTS_3290_UKST_pt3_v1-0.exe SOUND & ukfs_v3.1.6_full.

At the moment the Route Is running but their are no Roads and most of the Road Traffic IS GREY, but the Bridges are Displayed.

Any help or suggestions with this Please?

A very happy New Year to you all and your families.
OpenRailsLog.zip
Thanks

Paul and the Tribe.

OpenRailsLog.zip

[crstagg]

Hi everybody, compliments of the season to everybody.

I am trying to Run The following New Route "USA_NCR32".However, as usual I am having problems running It.

How do I please, Run any of the Following, In ORTSContent If required?

UKTS_39174_XTracks, newroads_files, default-track-atrack-01apr25, tsection60, scalerail, scaleroad, UKTS_2807_UKST_pt1_v1-12,
UKTS_3290_UKST_pt3_v1-0.exe SOUND & ukfs_v3.1.6_full.

At the moment the Route Is running but their are no Roads and most of the Road Traffic IS GREY, but the Bridges are Displayed.

Any help or suggestions with this Please?

A very happy New Year to you all and your families.
[ATTACH]n2339464[/ATTACH]
Thanks

Paul and the Tribe.

[ATTACH]n2339464[/ATTACH]

You say you are trying to run NCR3.2 in ORTSContent that could be your main problem. 3.2 is an Update to 3.1 which updated 3.0. Both 3.0 and 3.1 have an Install.BAT file that indicates that 3.0 was originally written to be run in an MSTS install with the original MSTS routes.

I see from searching the forum for "North Coast" that you posted questions about NCR3.0 6 years ago. Assuming it was then installed in an MSTS install leads me to ask if it is still installed there? If not you need to start over. Install 3.0 in an MSTS content install, test and verify good install, then install 3.1, again test and verify, then Install 3.2.

And by the way 3.2 was released in 2019. Six years ago does not qualify as a "New Route"

[pcohen]

Hi thanks Charles for the reply.

Will try again in MSTS.

Thanks

Paul.

[pcohen]

I Meant It's a new Route to me. I have now RE-Installed Parts 1 - 6 back In 1MSTS.

But there are still no Roads and the Road Traffic Is still GREY.

Will Install Parts 3.1 & 3.2 Updates to see If It Improves any.

Still Confused though, were now told to use ORTSContent but still have to Revert back to MSTS For some Routes.

Will let you know what happens.

Thanks

Paul.

zip

[pcohen]

Now fully Installed and still the same.

Not sure what I'm doing anymore! Leaving this till the Morning now.

Thanks again for the help.

Paul
OpenRailsLog.zip

[oper190]

Paul - been following this - First many older routes need to be installed in an MSTS installation first for two reasons: 1) They we made for MSTS so best to test them in MSTS to be insure they work first. 2) Many had an "Installme.bat" ( or similar ), that needs to be run in an MSTS install with completely installed default routes so you can run them to copy needed files into the route. - Then again check that the route works first in MSTS before placing in an OR install. - Else you just wasted a lot of time and can't fix them in OR.

It is assumed you have the complete Ver3 route already installed. ( Else install that first in MSTS. )

Did you follow the directions for installing the 3.1 update as given in the Readme.txt file. It needs to be installed over the ver.3 route, but in a renamed folder "USA_NCR31"
So here is the best way to do it:
Therefore it is best to copy your USA_NCR3 Route folder into a new Route Folder named "USA_NCR31"
That done, then install the 3.1 updates into that folder, replacing all when asked. After that run the "Install_31.bat" file (found in the USA_NCR31 Route Folder) to copy some needed files.
Now try running the new ver3.1 Route while still installed in MSTS. - If it works, then proceed with the Ver3.2 install:

Now copy and rename the Route Folder USA_NCR31 into a new Route Folder named "USA_NCR32". Then unzip the V3.2 update and copy the contents of the ver3.2 update into your new Route Folder "USA_NCR32" and again replace all files when asked. Now try running this new Route in MSTS. - If it works transfer the Route into you OR install and it should now work there.

******Note - many older Routes are NOT able to be dropped into OR and expected to run. Best to always install into your MSTS installation first and test run. Then transfer into OR.*****
Always read and follow any installation instructions provide with each route. There are no "common" installation procedures, each route uses it's own methods.

[bootednancy]

Paul......I fail to see what your problem is, but one thing causing your continued statement about NO roads or Rails..............first item you said the route needs X tracks, New Roads, Scale Rail, Scale Roads, plus a couple of others........FIRST THING....and this route WILL WORK in Open Rails....I've had it on my set-up, and I have my Train Sim subdivided into almost 100 routes in 20 some odd sections based on railroad or regions.
First thing you do is get the Utility programs into your set-up (Scale Rails, New Roads, etc)....they ALL have self installers, but you just have to point the install path to the GLOBAL folder in the Open Rails program. When all are loaded (you'll have several different t-section.dat, but just download #60 from the Library and drop it in to overwrite whatever the last installed older one was.
When I have a route that has INSTALL me.BAT programs......just move the 6 default routes into the Open Rails routes folder temporarily, run the BAT and it will still copy over what files are needed, then you can move the routes out of OR.

There is NO reason to be messing with the archaic Kuju Train Simulator program.....I use Open Rails ONLY, you just have to watch some routes that can not be mixed in with ones that use X-Tracks (I have one Czechoslovakian route like that) and routes that have the newer DDS graphic files instead of ACE......but I have had NO problems with any of that. Your best source of info and procedures is Ged Sanders (Slipperman)
Doug

[eric]

This is an update to the previous versions of the route... if you don't have v3.0 or 3.1, you should delete 3.2 and install all three versions in order to the same target folder.

https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...e?bundle=81999

[pcohen]

H i Ged, Eric & Geary again.

Well, This Route was working OK until I added the last Update ncr32.zip, and now the Route will not even Start-up?

Would also please like to Increase the Track Speed Limit If possible.

Log File Enclosed.

Thanks

Paul
OpenRailsLog.zip

[oper190]

Paul, I had ver3 and updated as I described to 3.1. and then 3.2 and all running okay for me.

Well, This Route was working OK until I added the last Update ncr32.zip, and now the Route will not even Start-up?

Edit - Paul I just started your exact "explore." Same path and consist. No problems, therefore you must not have installed the 3.1 and/or 3.2 update correctly. Suggest you go back to the 3.1 copy and try the route to make sure it is running okay first. If that works, then update to 3.2 again, as per the readme provided, as I suggested in my prior post (#6).

I suggested making copies as you did the updates, so you'd have ver3 and 3.1 as back-ups. Once you have a working v3.2, I'd still keep the ver3 & 3.1 somewhere as back-up files.

Would also please like to Increase the Track Speed Limit If possible.

That required reworking the route in the Route Editor, so just leave that alone. Simply ignore the speed limits if you want to go faster, but you might derail

[pcohen]

Hi Eric and Geary, thanks again for the help.

Eric, thanks for the New Route Listing.

Route USA_NCR3 Updated to Version 3.1 only.
Completed the Route Non-Stop with no saves from Arcarta - Willetts in 3Hrs:40 Minutes.

Not sure what you meant about a shorter Consist.

Thanks

Paul.

[pcohen]

Hi Geary

your quote "Edit - Paul I just started your exact "explore." Same path and consist. No problems, therefore you must not have installed the 3.1 and/or 3.2 update correctly. Suggest you go back to the 3.1 copy and try the route to make sure it is running okay first. If that works, then update to 3.2 again, as per the readme provided, as I suggested in my prior post (#6).

Helo again, I have alredy done as you say above, I have run from Arcata - Willetts Non- stop using Update 3.1.

I have just Redone "Eric's" suggestion, following his instructions In Post#8 to Reinstall a fresh Route, but again The
Route will not Start-Up.

Going out this Evening, so will have to continue with this Tomorrow.

Thanks to everybody.

Regards

Paul.

OpenRailsLog.zip

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
I appreciate that you may not see this until tomorrow!

From the log you posted, you have NOT followed the instructions.
You are using route USA_NCR3 when at this stage, you should be using USA_NCR31 or, even, USA_NCR32, depending on which updates you've applied.
As I've said before, you MUST follow instructions EXACTLY otherwise you will be having problems for ever.

Cheers,
Ged

[oper190]

Paul from your Log, either you are still running Ver3, or you have not named the Route Folder properly as required. If you don't name the Route Folder properly none of the activities will work. With each update they are rewritten to use the new Folder names. "USA_NCR31" for ver3.1 and "USA_NCR32" for ver3.2

This why I suggest you do a test run after each update to be sure you have a good Route install. Then make a copy of the Route Folder and rename it as required for the next update.
This way you then have a good copy to work from and run, to fall back on.

[oper190]

Not sure what you meant about a shorter Consist.

Paul that was before recreating your "Explore", since I was able to run your Explore with the same Path and Consist that you did, that was NOT the problem, so do worry about that.