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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #1

    Graphics Issue please?

    Hello everybody again.

    I have all the required Files Installed to Run MSTS/Open Rails.

    Xtracks, new roads, Atracks, tsection 60, scale rail and scale roads.

    All the Current Routes I have Installed are ALL running correctly.

    However, just occasionally The Track & Scenery Dissappears (no specific Route) and to get back to normal I have to toggle the Camera Keys 1 & 2 (Cabview & outside View) to return to a normal View.

    Is there a Fix for this please.

    thanks

    Paul.

    OpenRailsLog.txt
  • slipperman
    3500 Post Veteran



    • May 2010
    • 3787
    • Worksop, UK
    • MSOR

    #2
    Hi Paul,
    I have just run the same activity from Skipton to Hellifield (as you appear to have done) without any problems (except for the suspect brakes on 10001!).

    You are using the same graphics card as I am and, although you're using a different processor, the speed of yours is slightly higher than mine and you have more PC RAM than I have.

    All your OR settings, as shown in the log, are the same as mine except for Speed Control, which you have set to False and I have set to True..

    Therefore, I suspect that your problem lies elsewhere. Are you running anything else at the same time as Open Rails? Maybe anti-virus?

    Cheers,
    Ged

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    • pcohen
      1000 Post Veteran


      • Jul 2007
      • 1294
      • Wrexham North Wales UK

      #3
      Hi Ged, thanks for your reply.

      Not sure what you mean, with your comment

      quote:- "Speed Control, which you have set to False and I have set to True"

      I haven't changed or altered anything!

      thanks

      Paul.

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      • pcohen
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Jul 2007
        • 1294
        • Wrexham North Wales UK

        #4
        Would somebody out there please have a look at Activity #5 Looks like a non-stop to Leeds.

        But when yo get to the first RED Signal, there Is a stationary train ahead that doesn't seem to want to move!

        Thanks
        Paul.

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        • slipperman
          3500 Post Veteran



          • May 2010
          • 3787
          • Worksop, UK
          • MSOR

          #5
          Hi Paul,
          That activity runs OK in MSTS but there's something in it that Open Rails doesn't like!
          The Track Monitor (F4) shows 'Off Path' just before the locos couple to the coaches which means the activity won't run any further!
          I suspect that it MIGHT be that the coaches' RP is too far forward - it should be well 'under' the coaches - will see if I can move it (but no promises!).

          Cheers,
          Ged

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          • slipperman
            3500 Post Veteran



            • May 2010
            • 3787
            • Worksop, UK
            • MSOR

            #6
            Hi Paul,
            I solved the "Off Path" problem by moving the Reverse Point.
            However, that didn't solve the main problem - the AI train blocking the Player's path!
            That turned out to be the train which left Carlisle just before the Player so I retimed it to leave after the player.
            The Player then got stopped at the same signal; I switched to Manual and drove past it then reverted to Auto. From then on all the signals were OK through the next two stations.
            I think the signal which didn't clear is incorrectly configured FOR OPEN RAILS because it works OK when running MSTS.

            I, respectfully, suggest that you forget this activity and try some others.

            Cheers,
            Ged



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            • pcohen
              1000 Post Veteran


              • Jul 2007
              • 1294
              • Wrexham North Wales UK

              #7
              Good morning Ged. Thanks again for your reply.

              Your quote:- "because it works OK when running MSTS." I am running MSTS but It's not working for me!

              I an at the Stage where I am trying out Routes & Activities IN MSTS before moving them to ORTSContent.

              Thanks

              Paul.

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              • slipperman
                3500 Post Veteran



                • May 2010
                • 3787
                • Worksop, UK
                • MSOR

                #8
                Hi Paul,
                You attached an Open Rails log for it - that means you're running Open Rails.
                I wonder if this is where you're getting confused? The log shows that you're running the route, which is installed in the 1MSTS folder, using Open Rails.

                You DO NOT have to move routes from 1MSTS into ORTSContent - in fact, I recommend that you don't because you can give yourself even more problems!
                If you still want to move a route from 1MSTS into ORTSContent, do not forget to also copy ALL the required files from the GLOBAL, main SOUND and TRAIN folders. BIG question - how do you know which files to copy??

                Open Rails is quite happy running routes from 1MSTS so my advice is to leave them there - I do!

                Cheers,
                Ged

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                • pcohen
                  1000 Post Veteran


                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1294
                  • Wrexham North Wales UK

                  #9
                  Hello again Ged.

                  well now it's not working in either MSTS or ORTSContent.

                  It still has a Stationary Train beyond the Signal I am sat at.

                  What have I messed up this time please?

                  Thanks

                  Paul.
                  OpenRailsLog.zip
                  Attached Files

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                  • slipperman
                    3500 Post Veteran



                    • May 2010
                    • 3787
                    • Worksop, UK
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    Hi Paul,
                    I've already told you that I think the problem is with that signal, but I don't know enough to offer a solution.

                    However, you have really messed up your installation this time because even the activity in your 1MSTS folder doesn't now work!!
                    Only you know what you've done, because I don't! All I can say is that the Player path has been corrupted.
                    I suggest you delete the whole route and re-install it.

                    Cheers,
                    Ged

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                    • pcohen
                      1000 Post Veteran


                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1294
                      • Wrexham North Wales UK

                      #11
                      Hi Ged.

                      Thanks for that.

                      Paul.

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                      • pcohen
                        1000 Post Veteran


                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1294
                        • Wrexham North Wales UK

                        #12
                        I have deleted and Re-Installed the Route biut Activity #5 Is still the same.

                        Thanks

                        Paul.
                        OpenRailsLog.zip

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                        • slipperman
                          3500 Post Veteran



                          • May 2010
                          • 3787
                          • Worksop, UK
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Hi Paul,
                          What do you mean - "Activity #5 is still the same" ?
                          If it's that the AI train is blocking your path, then I've already told you why I think that's happening - TWICE !!
                          I've already told you that the activity DOES work OK in MSTS which means there's something in the sigcfg.dat and/or sigscr.dat files that MSTS accepts, but Open Rails doesn't.

                          If you tell me you ARE running MSTS, then why have you attached an Open Rails log file?

                          PLEASE, mate, forget running this activity in Open Rails. If your 1MSTS folder contains a full MSTS installation then I suggest you run MSTS from the shortcut on your screen, or open the C:\1MSTS folder, scroll down to train.exe, right-click that file and run it as administrator.

                          Cheers,
                          Ged


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                          • pcohen
                            1000 Post Veteran


                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1294
                            • Wrexham North Wales UK

                            #14
                            Not looking for a fight here, But are you telling me to Scrap Open Rails & ORTSContent please.

                            I have found over the years that Train Simulator, when you add new Routes, takes forever to startup?

                            Thanks

                            PAul.

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                            • ossie
                              1000 Post Veteran and Moderator



                              • May 2010
                              • 1298
                              • Melbourne, Australia
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              No Paul, what Ged is saying is that you must be using Open Rails as you've added an OpenRails log file. You can't get that from MSTS. When you start your train simulator, are you getting a screen similar to the one I've attached? If so, that's Open Rails. That's a newer, updated sim that was BASED on MSTS. You can still use the old MSTS content in it (as you clearly are) but it also offers a lot of newer features to us that MSTS didn't. Open Rails will happily run most of your MSTS content whether you have it in a folder called 1MSTS or ORTS (or AUSTRALIAHAVERETAINEDTHEASHES for that matter ). Occasionally though, there's problems with some of the older content and from what Ged has said, it sounds like this route (or activity at least) isn't going to work for you in Open Rails.

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                              Cheers!
                              Pete

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