Trying New/Old Routes please?

[pcohen]

Hi everybody. me again.

Not having a lot of fun with ORTSContent at the Moment.

Starting to get bored playing the same current Routes over and over again so
thought I would try something new/old. Routes that I haven't run for many Years.

One of my favourites from bygone Years was MARIAS-KOOTENAI, have to be my age to remember this one! but where originally I could run this one without any problems. Now It will not start.

Seem to remember this went Into the "USA2" Folder but there In no Installme.bat In
"mp3k-dm" or MSTS. Probably me doing something wrong as usual.

Any help please?

thanks

Paul.

[oper190]

Paul - Unfortunately never heard of that Route, so don't have it. However, you should never copy one Route into another Route's folder, a sure way to mess up both. I would imagine this Route might use components of USA2 that need to be copied into it to make a complete install. Is there on 'Install Me', or 'Readme', etc. with that route to tell what needs to be done? Wish I could offer more better advice on this issue, but not having that Route can only make a best guess.

With respect Paul, you do things without advice or knowledge, then ask for help to fix it. Let us know what you are planning first so others can advise if that is the correct thing to do or not. You ask for help and then before that issue is resolved you seem to go off onto something else and create a new problem. Let us work out one issue at a time and resolve it before going off to something else.

Edit - Paul - from the file name I would suggest downloading the newest version of the Whitefish route ( Whitefish10_X ) from the library. It is a complete route. I suspect your Route is a very early version of Whitefish, as it covers that area and a lot more. Being up to version 10, it is greatly expanded.

[pcohen]

Hi Geary.

In this case that Is what the Readme File tells you to do.

If you wanted to look at It, It's here File ID 64880.

Thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
This is from the readme, supplied with the route :

All that is required is to COPY - PASTE all the Marias-Kootenai route folders and their sub-folders into the MSTS ROUTES folder. When all have been transferred then the Installme.bat in the new Marias-Kootenai folder must be run, paying attention to any lines saying “File not found” scrolling down the screen !!! All MSTS default routes are required in order to install most Add-On Routes needing some of the MSTS default files.

As stated, it needs to be installed into a FULL default MSTS installation. If your ORTSContent folder doesn't have the 6 default routes, you shouldn't install it there. If you've still got your 1MSTS installation, that MIGHT be suitable.
It DOES NOT tell you to install it into the USA2 folder! Also, note that no activities are supplied.

Cheers,
Ged

[pcohen]

Hi Ged.

The ORTSContent folder does have al the 6 default routes.

But the ORTSContent folder or the MSTS Folder do not contain an Installme.bat.

Thanks

Paul.

[slipperman]

Hi Paul,
For a start, the file you quoted is an UPGRADE to the MARIAS-KOOTENAI route, adding distant mountains to it. You need to download and install the 5 files for the original route before you can add this one. The file IDs you need are 63251 to 63255, PLUS a fix, file ID 63305.

You will NEVER find an installme.bat file in the ORTSContent or 1MSTS folders; if required, they will be in the individual route folder because they are route-specific.

The ORTSContent folder does have al the 6 default routes.

I hope it doesn't ! If present, the 6 default routes should be in the ROUTES sub-folder of the ORTSContent folder. I think you may also need the default GLOBAL and main SOUND folders.

Cheers,
Ged

[baldwin]

Hi Paul,
There is most definitely an installme.bat in the Marias-Kootenai route folder. Do NOT put the route into the US2 folder. The mp3k-dm file adds the distant mountains tiles and textures.

Marias-Kootenai was done by Frank Carver, aka Emufarmer, who also did the UK route GWR Toddington.

Mervyn

[oper190]

Just installed Marias-Kootenai - need the five zips plus either the fix zip or the DM zip, which says includes the fix, for the route to run, after running the installme.bat with the default Routes.

Though it runs from Shelby though Whitefish and west to Kootenai, I have to admit the Whitefish Routes ( having ver. 8 & 10 ) running Whitefish and west, contain far more track. They are more inclusive with branches and multi main lines as well as running further west. So if combined with USA2, Marias3.1, or Marias5 gives the same track and a lot more to run. I therefore doubt I'll be running this much.

[baldwin]

Marias-Kootenai dates from 2004 which is about the same time frame as Whitefish 1. I would therefore expect the much later Whitefish 8 and 10 to be superior in terms of detail etc. That said, if someone wants the longer route mileage M-K will provide that, as will the later Gold Spike from Otto.

[pcohen]

Hi Ged, Geary and Mervyn, thanks for all your replies. Thank you for the Download Information.

I think this is Right?

My 6 Default Routes + the Tutorial Route are contained within the ORTSContent Folder "Routes". Also within global, sound & trains.

Plus new Routes that I have added.

Thanks again.

Paul,

[oper190]

First - Happy and Healthy Thanksgiving to those in the USA - Having installed Marias-Kootenai so giving it a spin, found a problem with the one activity that came with it. After swopping out the single Dash consist with a full one, the Activity would not load. Knowing my consist was good, I put the Activity into the MSTS Activity Editor. It seems the path is reversed, so my consist would not fit in the space available. In the Editor there was no visible path line drawn until zoomed in at the start point, it was going to the End Of Track not Shelby. By selecting Reverse Path Direction the path then went to Shelby, and after saving the Activity now loads.

Also the Route was made for kilometers, so a simple change in the Route Track File fixes that.
Look for the Line: "MilepostUnitsKilometers ( )" and change to "MilepostUnitsMiles ( )" and you get mph and miles posts correctly.

[pcohen]

Hi Geary.

Thanks for that.

Paul.