Will somebody create an AI generated Consist for Open Rails Train Simulator?

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Dear Trainsim,
I wish that somebody can create a tool engine for Open Rails Train Simulator that can make a realistic train consist for any railroad from any time era like similar to Run8's train maker. A tool that allows you to select out the locomotives, freight cars and set the number of cars, and the time era from any railroad and the AI tool will automatically generate the category of the train you want for the consist. I know that most freight cars are named by reporting mark and freight car number and the type of freight car and some dont have all of those features. That would be the most greatest tool ever created for ORTS assets for activities and timetables.

Request from
Dillon N.

[eric]

TSRE Consist Editor has a random consist function that you can use to create consists and save for selection in game.

Create random pools populated by era or even region, and this would be super easy for what you are asking.

[niknak]

...and there's also Activity Generator

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Sure I can select and save the type of cars for a consist but I was hoping for an upgrade for tsre5 to quickly generate more consists by spawning cars in a realistic blocked order for a railroad and not spawning shuffled and scrambled car types and having to arrange and swap the cars in the consist. I like to spawn trains in a realistic blocking order and by appropriate reporting marks without taking the time to fix them to a desired way.

Hopefully
Dillon N.

[johnnyboy99]

that reminds me, i've been trying to make a consist randomizer script with Roblox trains for YEARS!

[crstagg]

You want a realistic consist builder? Well first answer these questions:
Where is the data for an AI Consist Builder to create a REALISTIC consist?
Era: Where is the data in the Wagon file(s) that tell the AI when each wagon was used?
Where is the data that tell the AI what goods were carried by each wagon?
Where is the data that tells the AI what type of goods would be shipped from/to that area?
Where is the data that tells the AI that apples grown in Washington state near a siding serviced by the Northern Pacific can be found in an NP refrigerator car on a Burlington consist traveling thru Colorado, New Mexico and Texas enroute to Dallas?

I could go on with more questions, but there is no end. Without this kind of data, you could end up with a steam loco pulling flat cars with components of the space shuttle on the flat cars.

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Response to crstagg:

Glad you asked.

Q: Where is the data for an AI Consist Builder to create a REALISTIC consist?
A: The AI can find all the resources on some websites that have information to use for its data about the railroad's history, and which reporting marks from other leasing companies that the railroad you want to operate with uses.

Q: Era: Where is the data in the Wagon file(s) that tell the AI when each wagon was used?
A: You could add a feature in the AI consist maker that allows you to highlight and select all the wagon files and tag them for what era you want to use them in.

Q: Where is the data that tell the AI what goods were carried by each wagon?
A: Some wagon files have a name cover that distinguishes the loads like the flatcars.

Q: Where is the data that tells the AI what type of goods would be shipped from/to that area?
A: you could add a feature in the AI consist maker that allows you to tag the Freight cars for what type of loads to make consist blocks.

Q: Where is the data that tells the AI that apples grown in Washington state near a siding serviced by the Northern Pacific can be found in an NP refrigerator car on a Burlington consist traveling thru Colorado, New Mexico and Texas enroute to Dallas?
A: that may not be part of the AI consist maker. But all of that could be made up in the Activity Generator (The app I've never heard of, used, or learned how to use but ill look into it.) that has been mentioned by niknak.

Any further Questions? I could go on a with answers until there is an end.
Dillon.

[oper190]

Seem like asking for a lot from something for nothing. - Who's suppose to write this AL software? That's what the activity and consist editor are for.

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Thats who I'm looking for, someone that has an idea of improving activity and consist editor to make it better, like run8 so ORTS can be more populated. Well, If no one has a better way to improve the TSRE5, I still appreciate yall for responding by here.

Continues to dream on,
Dillon.

[eric]

Consider that Run8 has a small set of routes on a handful of railroads in the US, and is for a single era.

OpenRails has thousands of routes in dozens of countries over more than 150 years.

Not quite a comparison of equal situations, eh?

[oper190]

Thats who I'm looking for, someone that has an idea of improving activity and consist editor to make it better, like run8

Well those folk get paid, the people that do OR aren't. Again a lot of something for nothing. And adding to Eric's comment, there is no common naming format for MSTS/OR rolling stock to even know for certain what type of car a specific piece is, let alone what era, or Railroad / owner it belongs to.

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Well those folk get paid, the people that do OR aren't. Again a lot of something for nothing. And adding to Eric's comment, there is no common naming format for MSTS/OR rolling stock to even know for certain what type of car a specific piece is, let alone what era, or Railroad / owner it belongs to.

I appreciate your perspective, though I see it differently.

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Consider that Run8 has a small set of routes on a handful of railroads in the US, and is for a single era.

OpenRails has thousands of routes in dozens of countries over more than 150 years.

Not quite a comparison of equal situations, eh?

And the relationship in between is that the consists in the US can be the same.
Cheers.

[pwillard]

though I see it differently

Then do it. Don't expect someone else to. Use the excellent AI tools the Internet has given us and make it happen.

RUN8 can do this *because* it has complete control over content and therefore full knowledge of what is out there and available for sane consists. OpenRails is the polar opposite of that, and any tool generated would need to account for the complete chaos that is the available content from the last 25 years.

It would come down to "user-generated/managed " lists of known content items to pick from, or else you are doomed.

[UnionPacificGP60#1050]

Then do it. Don't expect someone else to. -make it happen.

Sir.
I literally do not know how to make this shit but I get it. No one is going to make it. I am now hurt with these last 2 replies than I already am. I didn't expect people to be annoyed or bothered by this forum when I ask for one thing. All you have to say is "I don't think anyone will make TSRE5 better." and that's it, and I wouldn't have to post my frustration with everyone. Please don't make another reply that will disappoint me, I get it now. 😔

Thanks for your consideration.