MSTS Installation question please?

[pcohen]

Hi Everybody.

I appreciate the Items Below may or may not be required all the time:-

Xtracks, New Roads, Atracks, tsection 60, Scale Rail and Scale Roads when you add a route that needs them, and tsection 60.

My question Is please?

I am currently running the MONON 2.17 Route, but although the Route seems to be running Fine, I notice that although the Track and Scenery are fine the Roads look like grass tracks.

Once the above Items Have been Installed Is that It for all Installations or do I have to reinstall them (If required) every time I Install a new Route?

Many thanks

Paul.

[baldwin]

Hi Paul
When you have all of those extra items installed, that is it, nothing more to do when you add another route. Monon requires Xtracks plus New Roads and Scale Roads.
As has already been stated somewhere, the newer Atracks set is a replacement for the old Xtracks set.

Mervyn

[oper190]

From my experience once installed in Global you are all set. Unless the download is directed to install into a route, ( do not recall any that do ) they go into Global.

[pcohen]

Hi Geary & Mervyn, thank you both for your replies.

Guess it's the way the Route is put together then.

Thanks again

Paul.

[ossie]

Paul, screenshots would certainly help provide some context to your questions, but I'd be very surprised if it's a route issue you're referring to. I use Monon a lot and the roads look like this...

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[oper190]

I looked at my version, and there are some shapes that can be installed into Global and Route Shapes Folders, reported that they might be missing.

Paul - in the Route is folder Tracks-ND, there are two sub-Folders, Put In Main Globel Shapes Folder and Put In Manon Shapes Folder - In each is a shape for a road piece ( .s & .sd files ) try copying them into the appropriate folder but ONLY the road pieces. You already are using Atracks and any track pieces will overwrite that with other shapes. If that road pieces is missing that might explain why you're seeing funny stuff. There are other sub- folders but disregard them, and any track shapes.

[oper190]

Paul one Question - Did you install the Manon OR update file, that fixes some object shapes and other things in the Route? If you haven't. It's called Mono-2_OR_UPdate-Sep_2017.exe

[pcohen]

Hi Pete, many thanks for your reply.

At least your Picture does show Roads, Mine only shows what I can only Describe as Grass tracks.

Will try Geary's Idea and see what happens or any sign of Improvement.

Thanks

Paul.

[pcohen]

Hi Geary, me again.

I have Done as you have suggested and this is what's happening now.

There appears to be some Improvement to the Roads they seem sharper.

Louiseville - Chicago. As I leave the bridge when crossing the river approaching New albany there Is moving traffic to the Right of the Track
but no Road. May not be grass (maybe the Scenery Base).

After passing Vernia & Pillsbury between Mile marker 312-311 again there Is more Moving Traffic to the Right of the Track, but again no Road.

I don't know, Maybe this Is how the Route was Finished.

Many thanks again.

Paul.

[oper190]

Paul - Haven't run Manon in some time so once I get a chance I'll give it a run. Sounds like you are missing road shapes or textures.
Could you load Manon and then post the OR Log? If files are missing it should tell us.

Geary

[oper190]

Paul - another thought - check your Track Database file in Global and see what version it is. Some of the downloads you've done can install older versions and may have overwritten your newest version. That might account for missing shapes, don't know if it effects roads or not.

[slipperman]

HI,
May I respectfully suggest that maybe Paul hasn't installed NewRoads, or hasn't installed it into the correct installation 'root' folder? I believe his should be C:\1MSTS unless he has created a new installation for the Monon route.

Cheers,
Ged

[oper190]

\Ran an Explore and from what I ran all seems okay with roads. Have seen some rails that are buried in the ground at New Albany Yard, and can't say that the same could be with some roads.Will run Louiseville - Chicago and se about the road at the bridge.

Edit -Okay ran over the bride going into new Albany and all roads were there so I suspect Ged is correct, New Roads is not properly or completely installed. Again the OR Log should tell what's missing.

Edit2 - In review, Paul did you copy the Scale Rails Textures into the Route Texture folder. I will post pictures of what you needed to do.

[oper190]

Paul if you have installed Scale Rails/Roads correctly you should see in your Global Folder a Sub-Folder ScaleRail
SR1.jpg
Open that Folder and you should see:
SR2.jpg
You need to copy and past the Texture folder into the Route's Folder. It contains the Textures for Scale Roads.

This might account for missing roads.

Geary

[pcohen]

Hi geary, thanks again for the help.

I missed the Traffic on the Left with no Road approaching New Albany.

I have Run MONON 2.17 To the point last reported at Mile Markers 312-311
unless you want me to complete the Route which will take a good Few Hours.

Thanks again.

Paul.

P.S. I do have New Roads Installed.