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  • duke1234
    Member

    • Aug 2013
    • 49
    • Onalaska, WI

    #1

    Marias Pass Teleportation.

    Hello,

    Im having a issue I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing with Marias Pass 5 from the file library, in which my trains are telporting across sections of the map. In the Map I can see a dashed line connecting the two sections I teleport between. This happens almost 5 times across the route. Its so weird. My train hits the spot where the dotted line starts and just instantly skips large sections of the map. I dont remember this ever being a problem.

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    You ain't stopping at this hotel, kid. My hotel! The stars at night, I put 'em there. And I know the presidents, all of them. And I go where I d*** well please. Even the chairman of the New York Central can't do it better. My road, kid, and I don't give lessons and I don't take partners. -Lee Marvin
  • frliss
    1000 Post Veteran



    • Mar 2011
    • 1078
    • MP44.2 Worcester, MA
    • General

    #2
    It may be a broken Path. Try using the contributed track viewer Auto Fix Broken Path function.

    Fred

    Flashing Rear End Device

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    • geepster775
      2500 Post Veteran


      • Sep 2006
      • 2846
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      #3
      Maybe you can find a clue here, from only 5 days ago.

      https://www.trainsim.com/forums/foru...ne#post2335458
      My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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      • dcarleton
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Nov 2008
        • 1004
        • MSOR

        #4
        Also remember that the local TSection for Merias 5 is mangled by including low numbered entries compatible with the default Global TSection of 2001 and high numbered entries compatible with TSections expanded for XTracks. It's just a fluke that Marias 5 is playable at all.

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        • oper190
          1000 Post Veteran



          • May 2010
          • 1498
          • Port Charlotte, FL
          • English
          • MSOR

          #5
          Run Marias 5 many times, many activities wthout a problem. So suspect it's path issue, what activity(s) is this happening with? If just Transport in Maria, I haven't run that one yet.
          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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          • OmenRotcod
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2022
            • 153
            • Calgary, Alberta, Canada
            • MSOR

            #6
            I have a similar problem coming from Whitefish in the area of Columbia Falls on the way to Conkelly. The train will head off the rails into the bush and then rejoin the rails a bit further on. It is not a broken path (in my case anyway). I think dcarelton is on the right track (sorry!) with his reply.

            David


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            • oper190
              1000 Post Veteran



              • May 2010
              • 1498
              • Port Charlotte, FL
              • English
              • MSOR

              #7
              I am running the activity, and see, since I replaced rollingstock, that I have done so before, no problems. Expect issue is with missing track shapes. Have full X-tracks and new roads with the A-Tracks update, ran and running no problems with OR 1.4 and using tsection58B and had been using tsetion44 before that.

              Edit - I reviewed of my screen shots, I ran this activity just over a year ago, 8/2024 - no issues.
              Last edited by oper190; 10-21-2025, 16:22.
              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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              • LuFeDuTi
                Senior Member

                • Sep 2010
                • 215
                • Venezuela
                • Espanol and Slow Ingles
                • MSOR

                #8
                Hello everyone, I wanted to ask a question. Sorry if I shouldn't have written it in this post. Is there a route through Marías Pass that has nothing to do with the old MSTS files?

                Fostoria Stop Truck In A Level Crossing Please No Stop In Rail

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                • dcarleton
                  1000 Post Veteran


                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1004
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Yes, in fact there are two!
                  There's the G.N. Hi-Line route, which is set in the old days.
                  And there's the highly accurate but incomplete BNSF Hi-Line Sub (file bnsf_hil.zip File ID 90134) set in the modern era.

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                  • geepster775
                    2500 Post Veteran


                    • Sep 2006
                    • 2846
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                    #10
                    Sure. File ID 90134. It is only a partially completed route by Travis, but the engineering involved is superb. Surprised the OP is messing around with the old stuff.

                    There are a few world files in that route (4, I think) that call upon US3 track pieces (I used the log to identify which W files, opened them up, and searched and deleted any "US3_" prefix.) Also, you need the Atracks replacement pack installed as there are two track shapes that were used to build the route that only exist within that pack (an 80m straight section and a 3.5m straight section) and without that Atracks pack installed the yard area around Essex ends up missing quite a few track pieces. I think the only thing still missing (a shape that has not been built yet) is an Atracks replacement for the 27m turntable present at Whitefish.
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                    • duke1234
                      Member

                      • Aug 2013
                      • 49
                      • Onalaska, WI

                      #11
                      Hello,

                      I will provide this info incase it generates any more discussion, I am using the explore route option with the whitefish to glacier park path. I wouldnt thing a path issue could cause this, im guessing its something to do with the TDB. In any case I was unaware of a newer version of the pass being made available. Looks like its time to take "old yeller 5" out back. She had a good run.

                      Duke
                      You ain't stopping at this hotel, kid. My hotel! The stars at night, I put 'em there. And I know the presidents, all of them. And I go where I d*** well please. Even the chairman of the New York Central can't do it better. My road, kid, and I don't give lessons and I don't take partners. -Lee Marvin

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                      • duke1234
                        Member

                        • Aug 2013
                        • 49
                        • Onalaska, WI

                        #12
                        Okay maybe I'm missing something, but it appears the GN Hi Line route you all are referring too is actually older than Marias Pass 5. 2009 vs 2013. How would this be an upgrade???
                        You ain't stopping at this hotel, kid. My hotel! The stars at night, I put 'em there. And I know the presidents, all of them. And I go where I d*** well please. Even the chairman of the New York Central can't do it better. My road, kid, and I don't give lessons and I don't take partners. -Lee Marvin

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                        • dcarleton
                          1000 Post Veteran


                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1004
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          Marias Pass 5 is actually Marias Pass 3 with the area around Whitefish re-done using XTracks.
                          The G.N. Hi-Line is a completely different build, and is newer than Marias Pass 3 but older than Marias Pass 5.
                          The much more reecent BNSF Hi-Line Sub is another completely new build, and in terms of fundimentals is the best build available.

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                          • geepster775
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                            • Sep 2006
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                            #14
                            G.N. Hi-Line is a steam era route, as in Great Northern, water tanks, semaphores, coal bunkers, code line poles, etc.....

                            BNSF Hi-Line is the new build, dated 5/2025

                            A file ID was provided as a search tool. Use it.
                            My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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                            • OmenRotcod
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2022
                              • 153
                              • Calgary, Alberta, Canada
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              Whitefish-X should get a mention too.

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