BNSF SD70MAC Font?

[meeshu]

Trying to identify the font used on (some of) BNSF SD70MAC locomotives.

This font -

9401.png
9517.png

I suspect this is a custom font. It is not Arial, Helvetica, nor NSlogo fonts.

Pay close attention to the digits 0 , 1, and 5.

Anyone know the font used?

[CSRX]

Trying to identify the font used on (some of) BNSF SD70MAC locomotives.

This font -

9401.png
9517.png

I suspect this is a custom font. It is not Arial, Helvetica, nor NSlogo fonts.

Pay close attention to the digits 0 , 1, and 5.

Anyone know the font used?

EMD based font, and I'm pretty positive Pete has them available on his website. I want to say they are under the Railroad Number fonts.

Edit:
RRNumber3

http://railsimstuff.com/fonts4.html

[meeshu]

Thanks for that!

Yes, it appears to be the RRnumber3 font.

[meeshu]

I thought the font used for numbering the side of BNSF SD70MAC's was Helvetica. However, the Helvetica digits 6 and 9 don't quite match the digits on the side of locomotives.

Real life locomotive digits -

9416.png
Helvetica font as applied on locomotive model via Paintshop Pro -

9416_helvetica_model.png

It can be seen that the 6 and 9 digits don't quite match between the model and real life locomotive.

So BNSF might be using another font other than Helvetica for side numbering of SD70MAC's(?)

Can anyone confirm the font used for side numbering of BNSF SD70MAC's?

[pwillard]

They almost *never* use an off-the-shelf lettering style. Railroad art departments would create their own style variants.

My offerings are almost always a trade-off between 1) how much I can accomplish in 1 lettering set, and 2) a mashup of what I have seen as available examples. Compromises are made; the rest can be fixed in your bitmap editor. (unless there is a more compelling reason to create a new letterset)

Also note: There are 103 variants of just the Helvetica font alone. Sampling just from what you can quickly Google is likely to be an almost guaranteed miss.

[meeshu]

Hmmm. It appears that the font is a (slightly) modified regular Helvetica font. With the glyphs/characters stretched a little horizontally, and the tails of 6 and 9 digits cut back a little.

[BurlingtonNorthern11]

In my H2/Executive pack, I used the MoPac numberfont from Pete's website. It's a close match.

[meeshu]

In my H2/Executive pack, I used the MoPac numberfont from Pete's website. It's a close match.

Thank you for that information.

By the way, I've downloaded and installed your BN/BNSF SD70MAC executive locomotives pack.

Very well modelled locomotives, except the crew front access door is supposed to be on the right, with the grab irons/ hand rails on the left. This is the standard arrangement for most, if not all, SD70MAC's I understand.

Refer to the numerous photos and videos of SD70MAC's online to verify.

It seems many people have modelled the SD70MAC with the door and hand rail positions swapped for whatever reason(s).

I'll attempt to swap the door and hand rails on the models I've downloaded (for more realistic locomotives) for my own purposes.

[meeshu]

In the process of renumbering these SD70MAC locomotives, plus making slight adjustments as and when required to the textures/models.

So far the changes work fine, except when changing the number on the locomotive number board. The number board number remains the same despite me changing the number!?

Since the locomotive textures are in dds format, I use the program Dxtbmp to open the dds texture file and then send it to the editor (Paintshop Pro).

Now. The original locomotive number board number is 9400. I'm wanting to change it to the number 9401. I made the change in Paintshop Pro and then reloaded the changed number in Dxtbmp to update the changed number. Both Paintshop Pro and Dxtbmp show the number board number 9401 as edited. So far so good.

But after saving/exporting the updated texture file back to the dds file (successfully, I believe) using Dxtbmp, and then opening the locomotive shape file for locomotive 9401 in Shape File Viewer, the locomotive STILL has the number 9400 displayed within its' number board and not the number 9401 as edited!?

I also quickly created a consist just using locomotive number 9401. On running an exploration activity under Open Rails 1.6 using this locomotive 9401, the activity also confirms that he locomotive number board STILL shows number 9400 instead of number 9401!?

Other changes to this locomotive number 9401 were completely successful as confirmed by the Shape File Viewer and on running the exploration activity.

So for whatever reason(s), changes to the number board number are not being recognized!?

Screenshot of number board in Paintshop Pro (successful number change to 9401) -

9401_where_are_you.png

Screenshot of locomotive 9401 number board in activity shows number 9400 and not 9401 as edited -

Supposed to be 9401; not 9400.png

What is going on here? Why aren't the number board changes being recognized, and yet the other changes to the locomotive textures are being recognized?

[CSRX]

Referring to the front doors... They were on the left side as well, which is what ETLW/Nash had modeled.

https://www.pwrs.ca/new_announcement...Locomotive.JPG

There, however, plenty of models that have the doors on the right as well in the library.

[uli2]

What is going on here? Why aren't the number board changes being recognized, and yet the other changes to the locomotive textures are being recognized?

Did you also change the number in the upper right corner of the alpha channel?

[meeshu]

Referring to the front doors... They were on the left side as well, which is what ETLW/Nash had modeled.

https://www.pwrs.ca/new_announcement...Locomotive.JPG

There, however, plenty of models that have the doors on the right as well in the library.

Yes, on further investigation, it seems there are some locomotives in real life that have the front crew access door on the left, but for the locomotives I'm renumbering, the doors are on the right side which is more common I believe.

[meeshu]

Did you also change the number in the upper right corner of the alpha channel?

No I didn't. I missed the alpha channel altogether!

Edited the associated alpha channel number from 9400 to 9401 and now the number board displays the number 9401 correctly.

Thank you very much!