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  • Kent-2
    Member

    • Oct 2020
    • 55
    • Washington State

    #1

    Too Quiet

    For some obscure reason, I no longer get sound in ORTS. I have checked the settings (attached images) and they seem to be within range. Any ideas?
    Thanks all.
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  • derekmorton
    5500 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #2
    A log file from the run would be more helpful.

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    • oper190
      1000 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 1498
      • Port Charlotte, FL
      • English
      • MSOR

      #3
      Is it only Open Rails or other programs/uses of the PC?

      Could the PCs Master Volume have been turned down? Not like I haven't had that happen and forgot to turn it back up. See it set at 64, try turning up to 100.
      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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      • Kent-2
        Member

        • Oct 2020
        • 55
        • Washington State

        #4
        This only happens with Open Rails. I'm afraid that the Log doesn't provide much info:
        Speed (mph),Time (M),Throttle (%),Cut-off (%),ITE (MotiveForce - lbf),IHP (hp),Drawbar TE (lbf),Drawbar HP (hp),Coupler Force (lbf),Loco & Tender Resistance (lbf),Train Resistance (lbf),Train Load (t-uk),Boiler Pressure (psi),Steam Chest Pressure (psi),Initial Pressure (psi),Cutoff Pressure (psi),Release Pressure (psi),Back Pressure (psi),MEP (psi),Superheat Temp (F),Steam consumption (lbs/h),Water consumption (lbs/h),Coal consumption (lbs/h),Cylinder Thermal Efficiency,Cumulative Steam (lbs),Cumulative Water (lbs),Cutoff pressure Ratio,HP MEP (psi),LPInitial Pressure (psi),LPCutoff Pressure (psi),LPRelease Pressure (psi),LPBack Pressure (psi),LPCutoff pressure Ratio,LP MEP (psi)
        55,0.0,60,30,13298,1967,12231,1809,0,1067,6863,535 ,223,117,115,56,18,0,39,147,30623,NaN,3085,0.86,0, 29773,0.54,0,0,0,0,0,0.54,0
        60,1.7,60,30,10589,1694,9528,1524,8986,1061,7432,5 35,223,116,115,53,16,6,31,149,30058,31581,3121,0.8 6,832,30592,0.52,0,0,0,0,0,0.52,0

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        • derekmorton
          5500 Post Veteran



          • Nov 1999
          • 5699
          • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
          • ORTS

          #5
          That is the wrong log file, turn that one off.

          The log file we want is "openrailslog.txt" which is on the desktop.

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          • Kent-2
            Member

            • Oct 2020
            • 55
            • Washington State

            #6
            Oops, my bad. Here is the full log:

            This is a log file for Open Rails. Please include this file in bug reports.
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            Date/time = 10/12/2025 8:50:17 AM (2025-10-12 15:50:17Z)
            BIOS = DN21CRV107 (American Megatrends International, LLC.)
            Processor = 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1215U (8 threads, 6 cores, 1.2 GHz) (L1 Cache 96 KB) (L1 Cache 64 KB) (L2 Cache 2560 KB) (L3 Cache 10240 KB) (L1 Cache 128 KB) (L1 Cache 256 KB) (L2 Cache 2048 KB) (L3 Cache 10240 KB)
            Memory = 31.7 GB
            Video = Intel(R) UHD Graphics (2.0 GB RAM) (igdkmdn64 32.0.101.6737)
            Display = \\.\DISPLAY1 (1920 x 1080, 32-bit, primary, 0 x 0)
            Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkvhd64 6.0.9697.1)
            Sound = USB Audio Device (usbaudio 10.0.22621.5547)
            Disk = C: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 930.6 GB, 290.6 GB free)
            Disk = D: (Local Fixed Disk, exFAT, 465.7 GB, 181.9 GB free)
            Disk = E: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 463.9 GB, 315.0 GB free)
            Disk = F: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 4193.6 GB, 1875.7 GB free)
            Disk = G: (CD-ROM Disc, )
            OS = Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-bit (10.0.22631)
            Runtimes = 4 Client 4 Full 4.0 Client
            Runtime = 4.0.30319.42000 (64bit)
            \\.\DISPLAY1 = Intel(R) UHD Graphics
            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Version = 1.5.1
            Build = 0.0.8366.40920 (2022-11-27 22:44:00Z)
            Logfile = C:\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
            Executable = RunActivity.exe
            Argument = -resume
            Argument = C:\Users\kgrou\AppData\Roaming\Open Rails\GOLD-SPIKE-X 2025-10-11 19.03.32.save
            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            ActRandomizationLevel = 0
            ActWeatherRandomizationLevel = 0
            AdhesionFactor = 100
            AdhesionFactorChange = 10
            AdhesionMovingAverageFilterSize = 10
            AdhesionProportionalToWeather = False
            Alerter = False
            AlerterDisableExternal = True
            AntiAliasing = (user set) 2
            AuxActionEnabled = False
            AvatarURL = http://openrails.org/images/support-logos.jpg
            BrakePipeChargingRate = 21
            BreakCouplers = False
            CarVibratingLevel = 0
            CorrectQuestionableBrakingParams = False
            CurveSpeedDependent = False
            DataLogger = (user set) True
            DataLoggerSeparator = comma
            DataLogMisc = (user set) True
            DataLogPerformance = True
            DataLogPhysics = (user set) True
            DataLogSpeedUnits = route
            DataLogStart = False
            DataLogStationStops = False
            DataLogSteamPerformance = (user set) True
            DataLogTrainSpeed = False
            DataLogTSContents = 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
            DataLogTSInterval = 10
            DayAmbientLight = 20
            DirectXFeatureLevel = 10_0
            DisableTCSScripts = False
            DistantMountains = True
            DistantMountainsViewingDistance = 40000
            DoubleWire = False
            DynamicShadows = True
            EvaluationFilename = OpenRailsEvaluation.txt
            ExternalSoundPassThruPercent = 50
            FullScreen = True
            GraduatedRelease = False
            HotStart = True
            IsModeActivity = True
            Language =
            Letterbox2DCab = False
            LODBias = 0
            LODViewingExtension = True
            Logging = True
            LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
            LoggingPath = C:\Desktop
            Menu_Selection = (user set) C:\RR Sims\MSTS, C:\RR Sims\MSTS\ROUTES\GOLD-SPIKE-X, , C:\RR Sims\MSTS\TRAINS\TRAINSET\380\380.eng, C:\RR Sims\MSTS\TRAINS\CONSISTS\oestrd.con, C:\RR Sims\MSTS\ROUTES\GOLD-SPIKE-X\PATHS\EXPLORE-ROUTE.pat, 12:00, 1, 0
            ModelInstancing = True
            Multiplayer = False
            Multiplayer_Host = 127.0.0.1
            Multiplayer_Port = 30000
            Multiplayer_UpdateInterval = 10
            Multiplayer_User = kgrou
            MultiplayerClient = False
            MultiplayerServer = False
            NoDieselEngineStart = False
            NoForcedRedAtStationStops = False
            OpenDoorsInAITrains = False
            OSDCarsState = 1
            OSDLocationsState = 7
            PerformanceTuner = False
            PerformanceTunerTarget = 60
            PrecipitationBoxHeight = 100
            PrecipitationBoxLength = 500
            PrecipitationBoxWidth = 500
            PressureUnit = Automatic
            Profiling = False
            ProfilingFrameCount = 0
            ProfilingTime = 0
            ReplayPauseBeforeEnd = True
            ReplayPauseBeforeEndS = 0
            RetainersOnAllCars = False
            ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\kgrou\OneDrive\Pictures\Open Rails
            ShadowAllShapes = False
            ShadowMapBlur = True
            ShadowMapCount = 4
            ShadowMapDistance = 1000
            ShadowMapResolution = 1024
            ShowAvatar = False
            ShowErrorDialogs = True
            SignalLightGlow = False
            SimpleControlPhysics = False
            SoundDetailLevel = 5
            SoundVolumePercent = 100
            SpeedControl = True
            SuperElevationGauge = 1435
            SuperElevationMinLen = 50
            SuppressConfirmations = False
            SuppressShapeWarnings = True
            TrackMonitorDisplayMode = 0
            TTCreateTrainOnPoolUnderflow = True
            TTOutputTimetableFullEvaluation = False
            TTOutputTimetableTrainInfo = False
            TTUseRestartDelays = True
            TunnelResistanceDependent = False
            Units = Automatic
            Use3DCab = True
            UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
            UseLargeAddressAware = True
            UseLocationPassingPaths = False
            UseMSTSEnv = False
            UseSuperElevation = 0
            VerboseConfigurationMessages = (user set) True
            VerticalSync = True
            ViewingDistance = 2000
            ViewingFOV = 45
            WebServerPort = 2150
            WindowGlass = False
            WindowPosition_Activity = 50, 50
            WindowPosition_CarOperations = 50, 50
            WindowPosition_Compass = 50, 0
            WindowPosition_ComposeMessage = (user set) 49, 50
            WindowPosition_DriverAid = 100, 100
            WindowPosition_Help = (user set) 49, 50
            WindowPosition_MultiPlayer = (user set) 88, 29
            WindowPosition_NextStation = 0, 100
            WindowPosition_Quit = (user set) 51, 49
            WindowPosition_Switch = 0, 50
            WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = 100, 0
            WindowPosition_TrainDpu = (user set) 24, 32
            WindowPosition_TrainDriving = (user set) 29, 28
            WindowPosition_TrainList = 100, 0
            WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (user set) 49, 50
            WindowSize = 1024x768
            WindResistanceDependent = False
            Wire = True
            WorldObjectDensity = 49
            YoungestVersionFailedToRestore = 0.0
            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Mode = Resume
            Route = GOLD-SPIKE Xcellent
            Path = EXPLORE-ROUTE to EASTPORT (C:\RR Sims\MSTS\ROUTES\GOLD-SPIKE-X\PATHS\EXPLORE-ROUTE.pat)
            Consist = Orient Express (fragile) (3) (C:\RR Sims\MSTS\TRAINS\CONSISTS\oestrd.con)
            Time = 12:00:00 (12:00)
            Season = Summer (1)
            Weather = Clear (0)
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            Warning: Ignored invalid track node 49 pin [1,0] link to track node 48; already linked to track node 49

            Warning: Ignored invalid track node 1422 pin [1,0] link to track node 1421; already linked to track node 1422

            Information: Number of Locomotive Drive Axles set to default value of 2

            Information: BoilerEfficiencyGrateAreaLBpFT2toX (Saturated) - default information read from SteamTables

            Warning: Steam engine type parameter not formally defined. Simple locomotive has been assumed

            Information: InitialPressureDropRatioRpMtoX (Saturated) - default information read from SteamTables

            Warning: Grate Area not found in ENG file and has been set to 10.02808 m^2

            Warning: Evaporation Area not found in ENG file and has been set to 501.404 m^2

            Warning: Boiler Volume not found in ENG file, or doesn't appear to be a valid figure, and has been set to 650.2494 Ft^3

            Warning: Steam boiler type parameter not formally defined. Superheated locomotive has been assumed.

            Warning: Superheat Area not found in ENG file, and has been set to 1349.267 Ft^2

            Information: BackPressureIHPtoAtmPSI (Superheated) - default information read from SteamTables

            Information: ============================================= Steam Locomotive Performance - Locomotive Details ================================================== =======

            Information: Version - 1.5.1

            Information: Locomotive Name - Gölsdorf 380

            Information: Steam Locomotive Type - Not formally defined (assumed simple) locomotive. + Not formally defined (assumed superheated)

            Information: **************** General ****************

            Information: WheelRadius 2.31 ft, NumWheels 2, DriveWheelWeight 79.7 t-uk

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            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

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            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

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            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

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            Information: Number of Wagon Axles set to default value of 4

            ENV SIGCFG SIGCFG TTYPE

            Information: Allocation for 87,500 particles:

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            Warning: 1 missing Stream(s) in C:\RR Sims\MSTS\trains\trainset\380\sound\380Cab.sms:lin e 1010

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            Loader: Time = 00:00:07.2136308 ms
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            Warning: {TileX:-12525 TileZ:14777 X:-363.452 Y:1250.47 Z:-716.049} car spawner 113 doesn't have connected road route between {TileX:-12525 TileZ:14777 X:-675.968 Y:1269.53 Z:-61.4118} and {TileX:-12525 TileZ:14776 X:-50.9362 Y:1250.47 Z:677.314}

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            SSSSSS$WTTWSSSSSSS$WW

            Warning: File a380_power_cruise8.wav missing from C:\RR Sims\MSTS\trains\trainset\380\sound

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            Information: Ignored missing animations data in shape c:\rr sims\msts\routes\gold-spike-x\shapes\crossing_sign01.s

            TTWWSSSS$WSTTWSSSS$WWSSSTWSS$WWTWSSSS$WWTWSSSSSSSS SSS$WWTWWWTTWSWSSSSSSSSS$W
            List of commands to replay saved


            Information: Game.PopState()


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            • derekmorton
              5500 Post Veteran



              • Nov 1999
              • 5699
              • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
              • ORTS

              #7
              >DataLogger = (user set) True
              Turn this off, it cripples machines.

              >Sound = USB Audio Device (usbaudio 10.0.22621.5547)
              Do you know what device this is?

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              • Kent-2
                Member

                • Oct 2020
                • 55
                • Washington State

                #8
                Thank you Derek.
                How do I turn off "Data Logger"?
                I don't know what device that could be. I have no audio device connected via USB port.

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                • qballbandit
                  6500 Post Veteran

                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6522
                  • Elgin Il., USA.
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  OR options/data logger tab.
                  Neil

                  Chicago Railroading Fan

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                  • peterman
                    Senior Member

                    • May 2010
                    • 151
                    • Great White North
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kent-2
                    Thank you Derek.
                    How do I turn off "Data Logger"?
                    I don't know what device that could be. I have no audio device connected via USB port.
                    If you have a webcam that would be your USB audio device.

                    Peter

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                    • Kent-2
                      Member

                      • Oct 2020
                      • 55
                      • Washington State

                      #11
                      Thanks everyone. Much appreciated.
                      I turned off the Data Logger. Should have figured that out myself,
                      I do not have a webcam or any other device connected to a USB port that could process sounds.
                      And, ORTS is still silent. Any other thoughts?

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                      • slipperman
                        3500 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 3787
                        • Worksop, UK
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Hi Kent-2,
                        Your PC's system thinks it has two sound systems - one appears to be connected via a USB socket and the other is the PC's default sound system.
                        Have you previously tried another sound system and physically removed it, BUT NOT its drivers?

                        I suggest you open up the Sound section in the Control Panel. In the first display you'll see all the sound systems your PC has got. I would think one is Realtek Digital Output, or Realtek <something>. I think yours should have a green tick on it. If it doesn't, click it to highlight it then press the <Set Default> button, when a green tick should appear. Click <Apply> and <OK> and go try Open Rails again.

                        Cheers,
                        Ged

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                        • Kent-2
                          Member

                          • Oct 2020
                          • 55
                          • Washington State

                          #13
                          Thank you Ged for the detailed advice. Windows only sees two audio output devices, speakers (default) and earphones (unplugged). Obviously, neither is connected via USB. There does appear to be some underlying issue, but the built-in troubleshooter was unable to fix it. BTW, the sound output works fine with other programs; just not ORTS (so far).
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                          • oper190
                            1000 Post Veteran



                            • May 2010
                            • 1498
                            • Port Charlotte, FL
                            • English
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Have been following this, and as stated your OR Log shows two Audio Devices:

                            Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkvhd64 6.0.9697.1)
                            Sound = USB Audio Device (usbaudio 10.0.22621.5547)


                            Somehow that USB Device was installed.

                            Go into CONTROL PANEL and then DEVICE MANAGER
                            Control.jpg

                            Click on Device Manager and you should see something like this;
                            Device.jpg
                            Select Audo Inputs and Outputs, a drop-down should appear like this:
                            list.jpg
                            Assuming you have this USB Device listed. Click on it and a Red X should appear in the Menu Bar
                            delete.jpg
                            Clicking on the Red X will uninstall it from your system.

                            Geary

                            Edit - A search reveals that it is a generic term for any number of external Audo Devices: "USB Audio"
                            Last edited by oper190; 10-15-2025, 10:58.
                            Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                            Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                            • Kent-2
                              Member

                              • Oct 2020
                              • 55
                              • Washington State

                              #15
                              Excellent advice, Geary. Thank you.
                              This cleared up at least part of the mystery. It turns out that the elusive USB device is my iPhone, which I do connect occasionally through a USB port. I never realized that it acts as an audio input/output device for my laptop. So, I disabled both functions (and the iPhone is not connected in any event). Still no sound from ORTS, though.
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