Another lost Diesel Loco Please?

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  • pcohen
    1000 Post Veteran


    • Jul 2007
    • 1294
    • Wrexham North Wales UK

    #1

    Another lost Diesel Loco Please?

    Hi everybody.

    I have spent most of the Morning searching for a Class 47 or Class 57 In BR BLUE
    Called "Saint Andrew". I'm almost sure the Number Is "47007" or "57007".

    Have tried all sorts of combinations but am not having much luck.

    Any help with this please?

    Many thanks

    Paul.
  • uli2
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 503
    • Berlin/Germany
    • MSOR

    #2
    https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...ileid?fid=6248

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    • pcohen
      1000 Post Veteran


      • Jul 2007
      • 1294
      • Wrexham North Wales UK

      #3
      Hi uli2, Many thanks for the Download.

      Thanks

      Paul.

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      • uli2
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 503
        • Berlin/Germany
        • MSOR

        #4
        I'm glad I could help!

        Uli

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        • pcohen
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Jul 2007
          • 1294
          • Wrexham North Wales UK

          #5
          Hi Uli, thanks again.

          Unfortunately, this is the wrong Diesel, the prefix IJ and the Diesel No. are correct but the Diesel had a RED Nameplate "Saint Andrew"

          Thanks

          Paul.

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          • slipperman
            3500 Post Veteran



            • May 2010
            • 3787
            • Worksop, UK
            • MSOR

            #6
            Hi Paul,
            Using Google, I found there are two Class 47s bearing the name "Saint Andrew", 47701 and 47624
            Using the file library's search function for 47701, it found three files.
            I downloaded all three and unpacked them.
            The one you want (I think!) is file ID 6248 - it's in Rail Blue.

            47624 is in The Rail Express Systems red livery but doesn't seem to be available for MSTS/ORTS.

            Cheers,
            Ged
            Last edited by slipperman; 09-05-2025, 07:16.

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            • uli2
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 503
              • Berlin/Germany
              • MSOR

              #7
              Hi Paul,

              The nameplate of the model (ID 6248) is added as a separate FA shape "nameplate.s". Maybe that is what confused you if you only looked at the model in Shape Viewer and not in the game.

              Uli

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              • pcohen
                1000 Post Veteran


                • Jul 2007
                • 1294
                • Wrexham North Wales UK

                #8
                Hi Ged. Many thanks again for the help.

                I am currently running UKTS_6248_IJ_47701blue at this moment. And It's definitely not the One.

                I only had this Diesel originally because my Grandson's name Is Andrew and I told him that I had named after him.

                Thanks

                Paul.
                Last edited by pcohen; 09-05-2025, 08:08.

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                • slipperman
                  3500 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 3787
                  • Worksop, UK
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Hi Paul,
                  I have just installed 6248 and have run it in both MSTS and Open Rails.
                  BOTH show the red nameplate "Saint Andrew".

                  If the loco you're using has the number 47701, I suggest that you have previously installed another 47701 and are using the wrong consist - you will need to create one for the 6248 loco.

                  Cheers
                  Ged

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                  • pcohen
                    1000 Post Veteran


                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1294
                    • Wrexham North Wales UK

                    #10
                    Hello again.

                    Not sure what I'm doing anymore!

                    When Installlng UKTS_6248_IJ_47701, when loaded It appears as IJ CLASS47 47007 SF BRBlue but I don't remember the "SF" prefix in the Title.
                    Also it Is Displaying without the Red "Saint Andrew"'s Nameplate.

                    Also somebody asked which Version of ConBuilder I was Using. It's Version 2.4.9.

                    Thanks

                    Paul.

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                    • uli2
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 503
                      • Berlin/Germany
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Paul,

                      I have installed UKTS_6248_IJ_47701, together with the consist for the light engine that comes with the download. In the Open Rails engine selection list the engine appears as "IJ Class47 47701 blue" and the consist appears as "47701_blue".

                      Uli
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                      • slipperman
                        3500 Post Veteran



                        • May 2010
                        • 3787
                        • Worksop, UK
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Hi Paul,
                        Sorry, mate, but you've selected the wrong loco - 47707 instead of 47701 - you need to select loco IJ Class47 47701 blue !

                        Charles asked which version of ConBuilder you are using, in case you were having trouble with the timings of trans in an activity. It's nothing to do with this problem!!

                        I apologise, uli2, file 6248 DOES create a consist with the name you quoted.

                        Cheers,
                        Ged

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                        • pcohen
                          1000 Post Veteran


                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1294
                          • Wrexham North Wales UK

                          #13
                          Well, your not going to believe how I got round this One!

                          Both of these Diesel Loco's are displayed in the ConBuilder Menu As:-

                          IJ Class 47001 BR Blue AND IJ Class 47001 SF Blue

                          I could not Delete IJ Class 47001 SF Blue, because It was not there to delete.

                          And everytime I reInstalled IJ Class 47001 BR Blue, IJ Class47 47001 SF Blue was still there.

                          Being clever, or so I thought, I Deleted and REInstalled ConBuilder thinking It would clear the Unwanted IJ Class47 47001 SF Blue but it Didn't get rid of It.

                          But now, (not sure If it was because I deleted Conbuilder) IJ Class 47001 BR Blue

                          Loaded with no problem and Is now Displaying the correct "Saint Andrew" Nameplate.

                          Problem now Is both IJ Class 47001 BR Blue AND IJ Class47 47001 SF Blue are both still displayed in the ConBuilder Menu.

                          Hope somebody else can make sense of this.

                          Thanks

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                          • slipperman
                            3500 Post Veteran



                            • May 2010
                            • 3787
                            • Worksop, UK
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Hi Paul,
                            I'm sure your ConBuilder shows the same as mine!
                            CB Display.jpg
                            Originally posted by pcohen
                            I could not Delete IJ Class 47001 SF Blue, because It was not there to delete.
                            Are you sure you didn't mis-read the screen because there is no such loco as IJ Class 47001 SF Blue ?

                            Cheers,
                            Ged

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                            • pcohen
                              1000 Post Veteran


                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1294
                              • Wrexham North Wales UK

                              #15
                              Well, Looks like I Messed Up again.

                              Perhaps It Is really Time I Quit MSTS and stopped wasting others peoples Time.

                              Thanks

                              Paul.

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