Square signal lights on BNSF Scenic Sub.

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  • niknak
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    • Nov 1999
    • 1254
    • UK.
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    #1

    Square signal lights on BNSF Scenic Sub.

    Hi Guys,
    I noticed today that the signal lights on my copy of TrainSimulations Scenic Sub route are not the circle that they're supposed to be. (see attached screenshot)
    This only affects this route, all other routes are fine.
    To my knowledge I haven't changed anything that might cause this but just to be sure I reinstalled the sigcfg and sigscr files from an old copy of the route, however the problem persists.
    Any suggestions please? Open Rails NewYear MG 2025-05-05 03-58-38.png Open Rails NewYear MG 2025-05-05 03-58-38.png
    Regards,

    Nick

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  • pschlik
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    • Jun 2011
    • 289
    • Missouri
    • MSOR

    #2
    You are missing the signal light texture, so it gets replaced with the default texture (which is a grey square, recolored to represent the light color). The specific texture used depends on the version of the Scenic Sub at play, of which there are like 6 thanks to the various incarnations of the starter route. The log file will report missing textures.

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    • niknak
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      • Nov 1999
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      #3
      Thanks for responding. I've attached the log but it doesn't mention any missing textures. I have the latest incarnation of the route.
      Attached Files
      Regards,

      Nick

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      • pschlik
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        • Jun 2011
        • 289
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        #4
        Well, what's your TrainSimulations\ROUTES\BNSF_Scenic\OpenRails\sigc fg.dat then? Something there isn't matching the rest of the install.

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        • niknak
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          #5
          I've attached it now but I don't remember changing anything in it.
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          Nick

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          • baldwin
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            • Nov 1999
            • 6358
            • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
            • ORTS

            #6
            Nothing you changed, just a missing texture as pschlik stated. LightTex ( "BNSF ltex" "SigLight.dds" 0 0 1 1 ). You are missing the Siglight.dds from the route textures file. If you have a Siglight.ace there you can change that line in the sigcfg.dat file.
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            • niknak
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              • Nov 1999
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              #7
              I'm puzzled now because the Siglight dds is present in the route's Textures folder. (attached)
              Attached Files
              Regards,

              Nick

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              • oper190
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                • May 2010
                • 1498
                • Port Charlotte, FL
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                #8
                I have to ask, has it been unzipped? You are showing us a .zip file. If not there's your problem, or if it was, it would seem the .dds has not been put in the right place.
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                • niknak
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                  • Nov 1999
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                  #9
                  The dds file was zipped in order to attach it. It's from the BNSF Scenic route's Texture folder..
                  Regards,

                  Nick

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                  • oper190
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                    • May 2010
                    • 1498
                    • Port Charlotte, FL
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                    #10
                    Okay.
                    By the way, when did you download the Route install? As said there were a number of different versions. Mine lists the texture as:
                    LightTex ( "BNSF ltex" "OR_siglight.dds" 0 0 1 1 )
                    That is from the latest version, downloaded within the past year. I would think it references to the texture listed, in your case siglight.dds.

                    *****Okay I just downloaded your siglight.zip and extracted it, and it shows as a blank texture, so I suspect that's the problem.
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                    • pschlik
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                      • Jun 2011
                      • 289
                      • Missouri
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      The latest version of scenic sub should use "OR_siglight.dds" not "SigLight.dds". Granted, if you have the "SigLight.dds" texture I don't know why it wouldn't work (works on my machine, but then again I don't play on the NewYear version) but the two textures are different. Probably want to reinstall the route to make sure everything's in the right place with the correct settings.

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                      • niknak
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                        • Nov 1999
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                        #12
                        I'm still working on this lol. I've just downloaded the route again from TrainSimulations site. The signal lights DO show correct when I run the route. But when I install the Siglite dds from today's fresh download into my original copy of the route then the problem still persists, which leads me to the conclusion that it's NOT the Siglite dds that's my problem. I have also copied over the sigcfg and sigscr files from today's fresh download to my original copy of the route without any improvement, so it can't be a fault with those two files either.
                        I really don't want to reinstall the whole route as I've made numerous additions to my original copy of the route using TSRE. That's why I just transferred the siglite dds and the other two sig files over from today's new download.
                        Last edited by niknak; 05-06-2025, 04:08.
                        Regards,

                        Nick

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                        • slipperman
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                          • May 2010
                          • 3787
                          • Worksop, UK
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                          #13
                          Hi Nick,
                          Originally posted by niknak
                          I've just downloaded the route again from TrainSimulations site. The signal lights DO show correct when I run the route.
                          Then, with respect, it's a problem within your 'modified' version of the route!
                          I suggest, first of all, that you compare the sigcfg.dat file from the route you just downloaded with the one in your 'modified' route.

                          Cheers,
                          Ged

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                          • niknak
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                            • Nov 1999
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                            #14
                            Hi Ged,

                            Yes it's definitely something in my original route but as I mentioned in my last post I have already tried putting the sigcfg and the sigscr from today's fresh download into my original route but the problem persists. So it doesn't seem to be either of those two files or the siglite dds file, as all three have been replaced by the files from today's download. I can't think what else it might be.
                            Regards,

                            Nick

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                            • oper190
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                              • May 2010
                              • 1498
                              • Port Charlotte, FL
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by niknak
                              The signal lights DO show correct when I run the route. But when I install the Siglite dds from today's fresh download into my original copy of the route then the problem still persists,
                              Did you rename "OR_siglight,dds" which should have been the name in the new install, to "siglight.dds" which is what your sigcfg calls for, or renamed the texture name in that file to match the new texture?
                              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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