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  • derekmorton
    5500 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #16
    That is why the Aus routes are not working.
    These and most old routes require some files from the original MSTS routes.

    Search the files here for default msts files,
    file id 2001

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    • oper190
      1000 Post Veteran



      • May 2010
      • 1498
      • Port Charlotte, FL
      • English
      • MSOR

      #17
      Originally posted by JSMR
      I’m new user to train sims so I just downloaded OR and the BSNF Scenic sub to get started only 2-3 weeks ago I guess.
      Question here, did you install these routes in the same install ( Folder set ) as the Scenic Sub?
      If you did that is a big No No. Only other TS routes should be installed in the installation as they used a lot of .dds textures, and their own shapes, than older MSTS routes which can really screw them up.
      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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      • eric
        9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



        • Dec 2002
        • 9583
        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
        • English, SQL
        • General

        #18
        I hadn't included the TerrTex folders in the 2001 or 89797 uploads because the intent was the shapes and textures... but I can look at including the Terrtex if you think it's used.

        Here's the default seven routes TerrTex in one zip. You might not need every file, but it's hard to know what's missing without it being logged by ORTS. Copy the terrtex folder over to your route (not ROUTES) folder and don't overwrite anything already present.

        TerrTex.zip
        Last edited by eric; 05-01-2025, 15:10.
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        • JSMR
          Active Member
          • Apr 2025
          • 276
          • ORTS

          #19
          Thank you. I’ll try and download and see what happens.
          Appreciate the help.

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          • derekmorton
            5500 Post Veteran



            • Nov 1999
            • 5699
            • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
            • ORTS

            #20
            You need to answer the question in post 17

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            • JSMR
              Active Member
              • Apr 2025
              • 276
              • ORTS

              #21
              Originally posted by derekmorton
              You need to answer the question in post 17
              At sorry. I completely missed that question. I’m out right now on my phone.

              And yes I did install all routes on a routes folder with the BSNF scenic.
              i had no idea that was a bad idea.
              Last edited by JSMR; 05-01-2025, 17:58. Reason: bad spelling on phone

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              • eric
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                • Dec 2002
                • 9583
                • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                • English, SQL
                • General

                #22
                I don't think that's a factor. The biggest issue with the TrainSimulation routes is the trackshapes calling for DDS. With Terrtex, that's all local to the route, and what's defined in the T files.
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                • oper190
                  1000 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 1498
                  • Port Charlotte, FL
                  • English
                  • MSOR

                  #23
                  Would then suggest making another Content Folder with the required files, which are those from the downloads suggested ( 2001 & 89797 ) so you have the needed basics, then reinstall these routes into that Content folder, run the installme.bat and then add the Terrtex that Eric provided and do as he said. See then how the routes look. Suspect it will then be corrected.
                  Nice thing about OR is the ability to have as many Content folders as you want.
                  Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                  Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                  • ossie
                    1000 Post Veteran and Moderator



                    • May 2010
                    • 1298
                    • Melbourne, Australia
                    • MSOR

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JSMR

                    The NSW Central West is 99% except around the Dubbo area and south a little way. Its not that much of a big deal since its nearly all ok.
                    However VIC Footscray - Ballarat seems to have a lot of issues for me.
                    There's been some good, helpful suggestions overnight and I'm sure the issue will be the default routes not being installed. I'm almost positive Russell's routes ran a batch file during installation that copied a lot of items from the default routes. I can install the route later today if you still need a "2nd opinion", but yeah, I'm certain the answer is getting those default routes into your routes folder then doing a re-install of the Western main.

                    Edit.... Sorry, forgot to add I'm not as familiar with the NSW routes but given the era most of them were produced in chances are they'd be looking for items from the default routes as well. It'll certainly be worth reinstalling it/them once you've got the default routes in place and seeing if that sorts it out for you.
                    Last edited by ossie; 05-01-2025, 17:28.
                    Cheers!
                    Pete

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                    • JSMR
                      Active Member
                      • Apr 2025
                      • 276
                      • ORTS

                      #25
                      I need to a stiff drink first to help me figure all this out then I'll work on it. 😬🤯😩🤣

                      Thanks again everyone for the assistance.

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                      • JSMR
                        Active Member
                        • Apr 2025
                        • 276
                        • ORTS

                        #26
                        Ok update, all good. Everything worked and no more grey textures. Appreciate it!!!
                        Back to reinstalling everything and drinking more red wine. 🍷

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                        • npbruce
                          New Member
                          • Jan 2025
                          • 16
                          • Northern Indiana
                          • English, some German
                          • ORTS

                          #27
                          Late to the party, but someone might find this helpful:

                          I had similar problems with missing terrtex files from the MSTS default download 2001 when installing the Milwaukee Coast 2nd Sub route. So I created a text file on my desktop with two lines:
                          ---A command to change directories to the route folder containing the Installme.bat file (I use a separate folder directly under the C: drive for each route, with the default folders and folder structure.)
                          ---A command to run the Installme.bat file while directing output to a couple of log files.

                          My text file looked like this:
                          cd C:\Mlwcoa2\ROUTES\mlwcoa2\
                          Installme.bat > InstallLog.txt 2>InstallErrorLog.txt


                          I changed the extension on this text file from .txt to .bat, making it a batch file, then double-clicked on it to run it.
                          The result is that the Installme batch file is executed, and a log of all the files that loaded is created, along with a log of all the files that failed to load. The error log makes it easy to see what you are missing and what exactly you need to track down.

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                          • JSMR
                            Active Member
                            • Apr 2025
                            • 276
                            • ORTS

                            #28
                            Originally posted by npbruce
                            The result is that the Installme batch file is executed, and a log of all the files that loaded is created, along with a log of all the files that failed to load. The error log makes it easy to see what you are missing and what exactly you need to track down.
                            Thanks, have run it for one Australian route that seems to me missing files I can't find anywhere. Although I've got some files that the .bat file you've created picked up on. Even when I add them and run the install.bat again, they're still missing according to the InstallErrorLog.txt.

                            I've added one in particular into the Terrtex folder. Same into the texture folder. And into the Global texture folder.
                            It still comes up as missing. 😲

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                            • oper190
                              1000 Post Veteran



                              • May 2010
                              • 1498
                              • Port Charlotte, FL
                              • English
                              • MSOR

                              #29
                              I believe the .bat files will still show them missing because they are looking to extract them from somewhere and still didn't find them there. They are not looking at what you have, but only where they expect to find the files. Have you tried running the route(s) after adding the textures to see if they now show up?
                              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                              • JSMR
                                Active Member
                                • Apr 2025
                                • 276
                                • ORTS

                                #30
                                Yeah they don't show up. Strange. They did go from grey to snow covered grass in those sections.
                                The other routes worked as per the default files and Terrtex instructions. Except this one route. Bit of an anomaly.

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