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  • demando
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    • Aug 2008
    • 387
    • Woodland, California

    #1

    Trackviewer Refuses To Load Route.

    No reasoning behind this. I have fresh installs of TSRE, both the Testing v8.005y and 07.014. I load up Trackviewer, but when I go to select the route, which has NO interactives, just a small amount of track, some scenery and roads. Getting back into route building has started giving me a headache.
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  • pgroenbaek
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    • Jan 2024
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    #2
    I've seen this happen before when the TDB references track sections that do not exist in the global/local tsection.dat.

    Is XTracks / Newroads installed into the global folder?

    Not having those installed when the TDB/RDB references sections from those packages is an easy way to have something like that happen.

    There are other ways this can happen too, but that's a common one
    - Peter

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    • pgroenbaek
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      • Jan 2024
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      #3
      Also, something you can try is taking the tsection build 60 from the file library and putting it into the global folder.

      Make sure to rename the existing one just to be safe.
      - Peter

      Route Projects: DK24
      Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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      • demando
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        • Aug 2008
        • 387
        • Woodland, California

        #4
        Everything should be in there, Peter. Xtracks and Newroads were copied over from a Global folder I saved years ago. I did try the tsection update, but it did nothing. I really purely use ScaleRail and ScaleRoads for my routes, as I have for years.
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        • pgroenbaek
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          #5
          Hmm, okay. Are you able to load up the route in Open Rails?

          OpenRailsLog.txt might have some actual useful information if you enable logging.
          - Peter

          Route Projects: DK24
          Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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          • demando
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            • Aug 2008
            • 387
            • Woodland, California

            #6
            I haven't been able to load it, since it's a route I just started. I wanted to get into Trackviewer to see my progress, but it gives me the error message. Can't even draw paths until I get this sorted out.
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            • demando
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              • Aug 2008
              • 387
              • Woodland, California

              #7
              Is there some kind of bug in my trk file that's causing the issue? Or is it a tdb bug? Most perplexing.
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              • demando
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                • Aug 2008
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                #8
                Here's the link to the trk file, if anyone minds: https://drive.proton.me/urls/AJGTA3K0E4#a4MyVUf5h12d
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                • demando
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                  • Aug 2008
                  • 387
                  • Woodland, California

                  #9
                  Making some debug paths in TSRE 8005y, I don't know what to make of this.
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                  • pgroenbaek
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                    • Jan 2024
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                    #10
                    Most likely a TDB/tsection issue. I don't see anything wrong with the .trk

                    I'd say try using the "Route -> Create debug paths" option in TSRE and load up the route in Open Rails with logging enabled.

                    Doesn't matter how much or how little track there is. What the issue is will most likely be revealed in the log file.
                    - Peter

                    Route Projects: DK24
                    Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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                    • pgroenbaek
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                      #11
                      Ah, you did while I was writing the other message.

                      What does the TDB file look like?
                      - Peter

                      Route Projects: DK24
                      Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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                      • demando
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 387
                        • Woodland, California

                        #12
                        Let me know if you find something that's causing the issue, please.
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                        • eric
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                          #13
                          You could try a TDB rebuild if you have a backup copy...

                          Add the following two.tokems to your settings file:

                          Unsafemode = true
                          TDBRebuild = true

                          It'll destroy interactives... so use only as a last resort.

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                          • eric
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                            #14
                            I did open up your tdb, and that first node looks really odd. There's no data, not even an empty mark.
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                            • pgroenbaek
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                              #15
                              My guess would be that it's the first empty TrackNode that is the issue. Would fit with the line number and error message in the log.

                              Code:
                              SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0T0t______
                              
                              TrackDB (
                                  Serial ( 0 )
                                  TrackNodes ( 150
                                      TrackNode ( 1 <-----
                                      )             <-----
                                      TrackNode ( 2
                                          TrVectorNode (
                              .....
                              If you're up for a manual edit, maybe try removing this part:

                              Code:
                              TrackNode ( 1
                              )
                              ​

                              And change 150 to 149.

                              As far as I can tell nothing is referring to the empty TrackNode, so you should be able to remove it without issues.

                              Otherwise you can try what Eric suggested since you have no interactives. Make a backup of the TDB before you do anything.
                              Last edited by pgroenbaek; 04-20-2025, 07:27.
                              - Peter

                              Route Projects: DK24
                              Utilities and Tools: ShapeIO, ShapeEdit, TrackshapeUtils

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