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  • ossie
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    • May 2010
    • 1298
    • Melbourne, Australia
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    #1

    SD60M FA questions

    Hey folks!

    Over the weekend I posted a screenshot of a deadline of UP SD60Ms I use on some routes and I got a couple of enquiries about releasing them. As I said in that thread, the textures were intended for deadline use and the weathering may not be realistic, especially for operational units. I have just started having a look at them though (I did them in July 2020 so it's been a while since I'd taken much notice) and there's a couple at least that should be fine for people wanting some older looking UP power but there are some issues. They're in 1024 textures so not as sharp as what we are used to now and a couple of the numbers I picked have/had the front number boards on the cab roof rather than nose so that might be an problem for some people.

    More importantly though I've got a couple of questions about freight animations.

    1. I've got Pete Abrams' SD60M loco upgrade FA from the file library on them. I don't think Pete's been around the sim for quite a while but I'm assuming it would be ok to leave it in the set rather than make everyone reapply it?

    2. I have no modelling skills but have become reasonably good at "kit bashing" and I've managed to fit step and truck lights and walkway chains to all my locos. I don't remember what models I took them from originally so obviously I can't include them but if anyone has made a set, or could make a set of lights and chains that would fit the Train Simulations SD60M, please drop me a line.

    3. I've got a properly modelled FA (so obviously not mine) in there called PTCANTENNAE.s which uses a PTC.ace file in it. Does anyone recall if that FA has been properly released and could possibly be included in the set without breaking any rules.

    https://www.trainsim.com/forums/foru...0m#post2042171

    One upside of digging back into these SD60Ms was I found a set a set of 9 ex-BN/BNSF SD60Ms marked as CBFX leasers I was going to upload around 2018 and completely forgot. They are also 1024 textures but at least a bit cleaner looking then the UP locos. That set includes an FA called SD40parts that was sent to me after the original forum post (link above) where I was talking about a texture mapping issue. So...

    4. Does anyone know who created the SD40parts FA and again, if it would be ok to include in the set?

    It'll take me a week or so to give the textures a bit of a once over and get them uploaded but in the meantime if anyone can help with the above questions/FA request, please do.

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    Last edited by ossie; 02-17-2025, 19:30.
    Cheers!
    Pete

  • SD40-2
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    #2
    Pete,

    I made a few PTC FAs that might've gotten around, could I see the part in question?
    Parker B. - A Misplaced Midwesterner.
    Also known as Mr. Two Bits and Mr. Squarewheels.

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    • ossie
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      • May 2010
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      #3
      Thanks Parker for getting back to me. Does this look like one of yours? I did a search on it and it's showing up on a couple of sets of SD60 & 70Ms but I've got no recollection of the where/how/who. I just wanted to make sure about ownership and distribution with a couple of these FAs before uploading anything.

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      Cheers!
      Pete

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      • CSRX
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        • Oct 2005
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        #4
        That looks like the one from Chris Wallace.
        -Shawn K-
        MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
        ​

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        • ossie
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          • May 2010
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          #5
          Thanks Shawn. I've just found Chris's upgrade in the F/L (which looks a bit different) but maybe the screenshot is his original? I'll see what Parker says but hopefully between the two of them I can get one on the locos as I'd like to keep as much detail as possible. The really key thing is trying to work out "distribution rights" for the step cover FA (SD40parts). Without that it's going to have a real impact on the CITX set with the front driver's side logo needing to be removed and also a few of the UP locos that had the GE plates/stickers would need editing as well.
          Cheers!
          Pete

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          • SD40-2
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            #6
            Originally posted by ossie
            Thanks Parker for getting back to me. Does this look like one of yours? I did a search on it and it's showing up on a couple of sets of SD60 & 70Ms but I've got no recollection of the where/how/who. I just wanted to make sure about ownership and distribution with a couple of these FAs before uploading anything.

            Open Rails 2025-02-19 09-54-48.png
            Pete,

            Sorry, not mine, so no need to worry about permissions from me.
            Parker B. - A Misplaced Midwesterner.
            Also known as Mr. Two Bits and Mr. Squarewheels.

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            • ossie
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              • May 2010
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              #7
              Thanks Parker, much appreciated! I see the version by Chris has been used on a couple of releases in the F/L. Like the SD60M upgrade from Pete Abrams, would anyone care to weigh in on whether they should be ok to include with these, or if I should be just telling people to download and install it themselves?
              Cheers!
              Pete

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              • CSRX
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                • Oct 2005
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                #8
                The ones I've used from Chris are "PTC.ace", "PTCANTENNAE.s" and "PTCANTENNAE.sd" which does appear to be an upgrade according to this.
                ptcupgrade.zip https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=81225


                This file appears to contain the original PTC of his, that matches your screenshot.
                https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=79822

                Safe to say, if you use the updated version, you'll be set. His readme appears to say, credit is required, permission not needed.

                "The freight aninmation is freeware and only to be used as such. If you wanna use it in one of your models or future repaints that you release. the appropriate credits should be given to me for it."
                -Shawn K-
                MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
                ​

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                • ossie
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                  • May 2010
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                  #9
                  Thanks so much Shawn, that's great! 😊😊
                  Cheers!
                  Pete

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                  • ossie
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                    #10
                    Ok, still a couple of questions that I'm hoping for answers to please:

                    1. I've got Pete Abrams' SD60M loco upgrade FA from the file library on them. I don't think Pete's been around the sim for quite a while but I'm assuming it would be ok to leave it in the set rather than make everyone reapply it?

                    2. I have no modelling skills but have become reasonably good at "kit bashing" and I've managed to fit step and truck lights and walkway chains to all my locos. I don't remember what models I took them from originally so obviously I can't include them but if anyone has made a set, or could make a set of lights and chains that would fit the Train Simulations SD60M, please drop me a line.

                    4. Does anyone know who created the SD40parts FA and again, if it would be ok to include in the set?

                    Just to add to that list, after geepster pointed out the variations in the UP SD60M paint schemes I noticed somewhere in the early 2400 number series the triclops windscreen gave way to a double pane version. I know there's one (or maybe two) old double pane UP models in the F/L, but permissions aside, they are very dated. Just to add to my questions/requests, does anyone have or would be willing to make an FA (assuming it's possible) to replace the triclops window with the double pane version please? If so I'd include some of those as well which would cover the 4 paint/windscreen variants UP used.
                    Cheers!
                    Pete

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                    • ossie
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                      • May 2010
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                      #11
                      I've just uploaded the CIT SD60M set but not having been able to get any answers to the inclusion of Pete Abrams' SD60M upgrade kit or the SD40parts FA I've had to go without them. In the case of Pete's upgrade, that isn't a big deal. It's simply a matter of downloading it and doing some renaming etc. The loss of the SD40parts FA is shown in the attached. Not having it means part of the CIT logo is now visible on the side of the steps. The best of a bad solution was to paint out the logo on the nose but there's nothing I can do about the uneven stripe on the ex-BNSF unit. The same issue will apply to some of the UP units when I get to them. I genuinely apologise to anyone that wants the set(s). I hate putting out anything that isn't as good as it could/should be but with the rules we operate under, there was no other solution I'm afraid.

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                      Cheers!
                      Pete

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                      • Timbit
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                        • Nov 1999
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                        #12
                        Hi Pete,
                        Thanks for the engines. I can say that the UP2242 s-file will work as well on these Units, as I don't have the BN one. I tried the UP, and as far as it goes for me, it worked.
                        Tim

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                        • ossie
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                          #13
                          You're welcome and thanks for confirming about the UP shape file Tim. 😊
                          Cheers!
                          Pete

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                          • uli2
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                            • Jan 2008
                            • 503
                            • Berlin/Germany
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                            #14
                            Hi Pete,
                            I just installed your CIT SD60Ms. For me they are looking very realistic and are a very welcome addition. Thank you very much!
                            Uli

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                            • wwhall
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                              • May 2010
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                              #15
                              Pete,
                              Thank you so much for the SD60s. I'm really liking them. Bravo!

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