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  • 1996fan
    Member

    • Mar 2015
    • 97

    #1

    Missing Consists

    I just recently reinstalled SLI/TS Scenic Sub v2 and when I go to Open Rails and run an activity it shows that all of the consists are missing but if I go to TSRE all of the rolling stock appears. Will I have to edit all of the consists in order for the activities to work poperly?
  • geepster775
    2500 Post Veteran


    • Sep 2006
    • 2846
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    • General

    #2
    Back up and try this again.

    SLI made the Scenic Sub v2 for MSTS that came with activities.

    SLI made a Scenic Sub v2 loco upgrade pack for the MSTS version that came with new activities (because the rolling stock had changed)

    TS made the Scenic Sub Starter Route for Open Rails. There ended up being 4 versions of the Starter Route. This came with (yet again) a new slate of rolling stock (built for OR) and new activities.

    So which are you referring to?
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    • crstagg
      4500 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 4885
      • Huntsville, AL
      • Texan
      • MSOR

      #3
      Originally posted by 1996fan
      I just recently reinstalled SLI/TS Scenic Sub v2 and when I go to Open Rails and run an activity it shows that all of the consists are missing but if I go to TSRE all of the rolling stock appears. Will I have to edit all of the consists in order for the activities to work poperly?
      So are we supposed to guess which activity?

      Also how do you know that the Consists are missing? Choose one of the below:
      A. An error message said the consists are missing.
      B. You looked in the folder C:\XXXX\\BNSF Starter Route\Trains and there is no Consists folder.
      C. You looked in the folder C:\XXXX\\BNSF Starter Route\Trains\Consists and there is no Consist files.
      D. You started the activity, there was no cabview and when you used the #2 view the were no loco(s) or cars present.
      E. You opened the OR Menu, selected BNSF Starter Route, selected the Activity and then found that the items in the Consist selection box was greyed out.

      If your answer is D, please attach your OR log txt file to your reply.

      If your answer is E, understand that the Activity file controls which consist is used. To use a different consist in an activity, one must first edit the activity file. Selection of co nsist and loco is ONLY available when using the Explore mode.


      Charles

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      • geepster775
        2500 Post Veteran


        • Sep 2006
        • 2846
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        #4
        He posted a month or so ago about another problem where he provided a log. PC looks current and competent, using 151 stable. But he was trying to run a Joliet-Fort Madison activity on an MSTS route located in the Trainsimulations OR route folder. He also had the LaSalle route burping looking for DDS scalerail textures. He managed to repair all that, but I dont think he walked away fully aware of minimum OR vs MSTS route segregation requirements. So who knows.

        Another post mentions trying to get BNSF 1109 and 1123 working with a repaint, and both of those numbers were attributed to the MSTS version loco pack upgrade, either/or a late MSTS era Route + Amtrak Builder + Loco Upgrade bundle.
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        • 1996fan
          Member

          • Mar 2015
          • 97

          #5
          The version I have has the original activities plus the newer ones from the re-release. So, this would be the one from say around the early 2010s?

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          • derekmorton
            5500 Post Veteran



            • Nov 1999
            • 5699
            • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
            • ORTS

            #6
            The log file will indicate what is missing.

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            • 1996fan
              Member

              • Mar 2015
              • 97

              #7
              When I go and select the route and then want to select an activity to run, I am not able to launch it. For example, when I select activity 1 "What Goes Up..." under the locomotive category it says <missing: BNSF_ES44DC_7775>. I can provide a log if that will help. It just seems odd as I am able to use all the rolling stock in other consists.

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              • derekmorton
                5500 Post Veteran



                • Nov 1999
                • 5699
                • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                • ORTS

                #8
                Slipperman's MSTS_Actman from the file library, will find the problem there.

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                • 1996fan
                  Member

                  • Mar 2015
                  • 97

                  #9
                  Upon running the Actman using that scenario it appears that the locomotives are not loading correctly. I could not find a way to attach the report.

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                  • 1996fan
                    Member

                    • Mar 2015
                    • 97

                    #10
                    Here is a report for the activity
                    Attached Files

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                    • geepster775
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                      • Sep 2006
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                      #11
                      The 7161 and 7828 should be 2-piece loco shapes that were part of the Scenic loco upgrade pack, so this activity is part of the revised set of consists/activities that came with that upgrade. Do those numbers actually exist inside the SLI.BNSF folder?
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                      • derekmorton
                        5500 Post Veteran



                        • Nov 1999
                        • 5699
                        • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        >Stock file not found - SLI.BNSF\BNSF_ES44DC_7775.eng

                        Check spelling for this one, its missing.

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                        • geepster775
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
                          The original Scenic 2 had

                          969
                          1033
                          4823
                          4897
                          5726
                          5745
                          2117
                          2319
                          2345
                          6810
                          6951
                          7810
                          8087
                          9871
                          9980
                          9982

                          These were all 1-piece loco shapes and Flintstone wheels



                          Loco Upgrade added:

                          1109
                          1123
                          4870
                          4898
                          5817
                          5852
                          5858
                          7611
                          7775
                          7790
                          2264
                          2285
                          6821
                          7161
                          7184
                          7828
                          9871 (again)
                          9980 (again)
                          9982​ (again)

                          All were 2-piece shapes (main shape + F/A)​. All activities were re-written to include these and exclude the originals. The activity re-write was pretty much quick and dirty. The text for (7. Rescue Me) still referenced the 6951 but the activity involved picking up dead 7184 and 7828
                          My Open Rails videos https://www.youtube.com/@lakecities3663/videos

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                          • 1996fan
                            Member

                            • Mar 2015
                            • 97

                            #14
                            Originally posted by geepster775
                            The 7161 and 7828 should be 2-piece loco shapes that were part of the Scenic loco upgrade pack, so this activity is part of the revised set of consists/activities that came with that upgrade. Do those numbers actually exist inside the SLI.BNSF folder?
                            Yes those 2 locos appear in the SLI.BNSF folder

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                            • 1996fan
                              Member

                              • Mar 2015
                              • 97

                              #15
                              Originally posted by geepster775
                              The original Scenic 2 had

                              969
                              1033
                              4823
                              4897
                              5726
                              5745
                              2117
                              2319
                              2345
                              6810
                              6951
                              7810
                              8087
                              9871
                              9980
                              9982

                              These were all 1-piece loco shapes and Flintstone wheels



                              Loco Upgrade added:

                              1109
                              1123
                              4870
                              4898
                              5817
                              5852
                              5858
                              7611
                              7775
                              7790
                              2264
                              2285
                              6821
                              7161
                              7184
                              7828
                              9871 (again)
                              9980 (again)
                              9982 (again)

                              All were 2-piece shapes (main shape + F/A)​. All activities were re-written to include these and exclude the originals. The activity re-write was pretty much quick and dirty. The text for (7. Rescue Me) still referenced the 6951 but the activity involved picking up dead 7184 and 7828
                              I've got all of the following motors plus the B40-8s from the original release. But what I find odd is that when I use TSRE to edit the consists that nothing saves, but when I go and edit consists for other activities for other routes they always save. Thats the part that's really confusing the crap out of me.

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