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  • monjodavid
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    • Dec 2024
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    #1

    Surfliner zip files

    Gentlemen, I am new to Open Rails and having a great time so far. Being from southern CA I wanted to get the surfliner add on running so I downloaded surf22_part1 of 6.zip, and the other five and the surf23 file. When I unzipped everything and tried to add it to Open Rails, there is an error saying it can't read line 325 of tsection.dat. Looking at the file with notepad, I see it is very small (325 lines) compared to other models which are thousands of lines. I do think there is a mistake somewhere.
    Does anyone know where I might go to get a complete tsection.dat file for the surfliner model? Or what I might be doing wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.
  • eric
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    • Dec 2002
    • 9583
    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
    • English, SQL
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    #2
    The TSection.dat in the route directory will usually be about that size depending on how much dynamic track is used within the route.

    Looking at my 2.3 version, it's fine at 325 lines.

    What version of the master TSection do you have? It should be version 38 or higher. Current version is 60.

    Download here and place in your Global folder --> https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=88841
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    • R. Steele
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      • Feb 2013
      • 3928
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      #3
      Originally posted by eric
      Looking at my 2.3 version, it's fine at 325 lines.
      Mine also, running the Surfliner ( version 2.3) --- I also thought there might be some confusion about the GLOBAL/Master Tsection and the route Tsection files.
      Cheers, Gerry
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      • oper190
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        • May 2010
        • 1498
        • Port Charlotte, FL
        • English
        • MSOR

        #4
        Just installed Surfliner2 and the update, ran a short test run, and all seem a-ok. My version was a single .exe file and an update.

        Edit note - that was the original Surfliner 2 - just down loaded the 2.2 & 2.3 updates, will install later.
        Last edited by oper190; 01-03-2025, 12:53.
        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
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        • oper190
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          • May 2010
          • 1498
          • Port Charlotte, FL
          • English
          • MSOR

          #5
          Okay - installed Surfliner 2.2 and the 2.3 update. None of the included activities would work, showing up as route error. Found the BUG.

          In the .trk file Route ID is listed as Surfliner2-3, but in all Route files references including the track.trk file are named Surfliner2-2. Just change the line in the .trk file for Route ID to Surfliner2-2 and all is now a-ok. Left Route name as Surfliner2.3 to avoid confusion with older Surliner2 - this way that's how it appears on the route list.

          Note- there are two .trk files - the regular one and one in the OpenRails folder, change both.
          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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          • R. Steele
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            • Feb 2013
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            #6
            Usually the only change made is to the RouteID line in the activity file....but I suppose you could do it this way, although I've seen problems occur.

            ROUTEID_Line.jpg
            Cheers, Gerry
            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
            Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

            https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79656&type=medium​ https://www.trainsim.com/forums/filedata/fetch?filedataid=79654&type=small

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            • oper190
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              • May 2010
              • 1498
              • Port Charlotte, FL
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              • MSOR

              #7
              Originally posted by R. Steele
              I suppose you could do it this way, although I've seen problems occur.
              See how it goes, can always change back and do it your way.
              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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              • monjodavid
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                • Dec 2024
                • 6
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                #8
                Thanks for the help with the tsection.dat file. I downloaded the one from here and it got past the error reading it. Now I get a message:
                Open Rails detected a track section not present in tsection.dat and cannot continue.
                Most likely you don't have xtracks and ytracks needed for this route.

                I had downloaded the xtracksf and yrtacks from this site and put them in the Open Rails folder, and "pointed" to them fro the content add. As per some directions I heard from a YouTube guide.
                Anybody have any suggestions? Some other routes installed with no trouble and I don't know enough to debug yet. I did look at the documentation and came away without any ideas.

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                • crstagg
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                  • Nov 1999
                  • 4885
                  • Huntsville, AL
                  • Texan
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Xtracks and Ytracks should be installed in a Train Sim install that looks like this one as they need to place files in the subfolders of the Global folder.
                  image.png​

                  DO NOT install in a folder that looks like this one:

                  image.png​
                  Charles

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                  • eric
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 9583
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                    #10
                    That message only comes up if there are undefined track sections, and really has nothing to do with XTracks or YTracks....

                    If you overwrote the TSection.dat originally in the directory with the one you downloaded.... that will cause that message to appear as well.

                    The downloaded Global TSection goes in your Global folder (shown in Charles' screenshot above).

                    The one that came with the route belongs in the Routes\Surfliner2-2 folder with the rest of your route files.

                    I've attached a copy of the local TSection to go in the route folder: ---> tsection.dat
                    Attached Files
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                    • monjodavid
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                      • Dec 2024
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                      #11
                      Thanks for the help. It seemed to go farther, past the last issue requesting xtracks and ytracks. I have the two tsection.dat as you specified. But I get a new message now, saying:
                      Fatal Error, Open Rails cannot continue. Player train original position not clear.

                      also see under locomotive it has :
                      missing Dash 9
                      missing SD402

                      leading me to think I don't have everything. I have never had MSTS and I wonder if that is an issue. I am not experienced enough yet to look through the files to see what is wrong.

                      Thanks for any help.

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                      • eric
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 9583
                        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                        • English, SQL
                        • General

                        #12
                        Be careful with activities and versions. That sounds like there's a path that's not compatible with the version of the route you have installed.
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                        • oper190
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                          • May 2010
                          • 1498
                          • Port Charlotte, FL
                          • English
                          • MSOR

                          #13
                          There are components of MSTS that are needed for OpenRails to work, however I do believe there are replace in keep files available here.
                          The engines your report missing are from the original MSTS installation and update. Since I had MSTS I have not had the need for the replacement in kind files here, so perhaps someone more familiar with them can give you the file numbers here.
                          Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                          Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                          • monjodavid
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                            • Dec 2024
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                            #14
                            Gentlemen, I think I have found my problem. The surfliner files I downloaded seem to have a missing folder, Under the Trains folder I only have one subfolder, where as all the working installations I have have two. My working routes have Consists and Trainsets, where as the surfliner only has Consists. Is it possible for someone with a working surfliner installation upload the two folders so I can download? Thanks in advance.

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                            • eric
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 9583
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                              #15
                              There's actually no equipment that comes with the route.

                              The included Consists only use equipment that came with a default MSTS installation, and frankly, those are absolute rubbish.

                              I'll see if there's a simple 1:1 swap available with equipment .

                              Here are some drop-in replacement consists that use equipment included in the current ORTS Starter Route so that the included activities can be run.
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by eric; 01-09-2025, 22:23.
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