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  • daniellouwrens
    1500 Post Veteran

    • Sep 2005
    • 1730
    • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

    #1

    WP3 Route by 3Dtrains

    Hi

    is there an upgrade for the above route for running in Openrails?

    The acts run okay but some of the rolling stock is missing?.

    cheers

    Daniel
    Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
    It used to be my favourite place in the world.
  • derekmorton
    5500 Post Veteran



    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #2
    The rolling stock that runs with MSTS will run under ORTS.
    MSTS_Actman by Ged is available here, it will show you whats missing.

    All activities run correctly under ORTS on my machine.

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    • crstagg
      4500 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 4885
      • Huntsville, AL
      • Texan
      • MSOR

      #3
      Originally posted by daniellouwrens
      Hi

      is there an upgrade for the above route for running in Openrails?

      The acts run okay but some of the rolling stock is missing?.

      cheers

      Daniel
      No upgrade for OR. WP3 was developed when OR was already available. I beta tested it on both MSTS and ORTS. Had a system which had never had MSTS installed. Installed ORTS, created an ORTS folder structure, added WP3 and found all it needed from MSTS was the DieselSmoke.ace file added to the Global/Textures folder. My testing found that WP3 worked well in either sim.

      If you have missing rolling stock, don't blame WP3 or ORTS.

      How do you know the rolling stock is missing?
      Charles

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      • oper190
        1000 Post Veteran



        • May 2010
        • 1498
        • Port Charlotte, FL
        • English
        • MSOR

        #4
        Do you have the default MSTS rolling stock installed? If not that might be what you think is missing.
        Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
        Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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        • dcarleton
          1000 Post Veteran


          • Nov 2008
          • 1004
          • MSOR

          #5
          Originally posted by crstagg
          WP3 was developed when OR was already available.
          Sure about that? If ORTS was available in November of 2007, then it was a very well kept secret. WP3 was developed when MSTS-BIN was the next big thing.
          But Charles is right, WP3 was so vastly ahead of it's time that it functions very well in OR without the usual MSTS assets.

          If there are some pieces of stock missing, check the log to see if there are any clues as to why they didn't load. A basic install of WP3 should bring in all of the necessary stock.

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          • brama
            Member

            • Dec 2012
            • 74
            • Netherlands

            #6
            I seem to remember that some white hopper cars weren't showing in OR. Had to change something in the .wag file to correct that. I'll check later if I remember this correctly.

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            • R. Steele
              3500 Post Veteran

              • Feb 2013
              • 3928
              • known universe
              • ORTS

              #7
              Originally posted by daniellouwrens
              Hi

              is there an upgrade for the above route for running in Openrails?

              The acts run okay but some of the rolling stock is missing?.

              cheers

              Daniel
              Run MSTS ActMan by ged saunders ( slipperman ) to find out exactly what is missing, if anything. File ID 88402
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              • brama
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                • Dec 2012
                • 74
                • Netherlands

                #8
                Originally posted by brama
                I seem to remember that some white hopper cars weren't showing in OR. Had to change something in the .wag file to correct that. I'll check later if I remember this correctly.
                The problem must be on your side, I guess daniellouwrens . Just installed the route with the original installer (version 1.06). All stock is showing correctly, so the issue I remember must have been with some 3th party stock.

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                • daniellouwrens
                  1500 Post Veteran

                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1730
                  • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                  #9
                  Hi guys. Thanks for your input. I'll run actman and see what it indicates. I am away at the moment and will have a look when I get home.

                  regards
                  Daniel
                  Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                  It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                  • daniellouwrens
                    1500 Post Veteran

                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1730
                    • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                    #10
                    Originally posted by brama

                    The problem must be on your side, I guess daniellouwrens . Just installed the route with the original installer (version 1.06). All stock is showing correctly, so the issue I remember must have been with some 3th party stock.
                    Hi

                    I ran All Acts through Actman and the result was "nothing to report." with both OR checked and un checked.

                    I'll give the route and acts a run through Route Riter

                    Cheers

                    Daniel
                    Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                    It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                    • slipperman
                      3500 Post Veteran



                      • May 2010
                      • 3787
                      • Worksop, UK
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Hi Daniel,
                      A couple of days ago, Charles asked : "How do you know the rolling stock is missing?", but you've not given an answer!

                      If the stock is not used in any activity, the "Check All Activities" (or "Check Selected Activity") option in ActMan won't show if it's missing - in that case, you can always run the "Check All Consists" option; this 'looks' at all consists, whether they are used in any activities or not, and will report any missing stock.

                      Cheers,
                      Ged

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                      • crstagg
                        4500 Post Veteran


                        • Nov 1999
                        • 4885
                        • Huntsville, AL
                        • Texan
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dcarleton

                        Sure about that? If ORTS was available in November of 2007, then it was a very well kept secret. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
                        ...................................
                        Now that you mention it. No. Guess I was thinking of when I was beta testing the Cheyenne Route. After I installed Cheyenne on a "clean" (no MSTS) install and found it worked well w/o a Train.exe, I did the same for WP-3. Guess Joe Smith was correct when he said my initials stand for Can't Remember $hit.

                        Have kept all my beta testing files on an external HD. And YES, Daniel, there was an update for WP-3. But it also was released only a few months after the original and was not because of ORTS.

                        Daniel,
                        The reason I asked, "How do you know?" was because I expected you to say I tried to run XYZ activity, and the OR log reported missing rolling stock, or you saw gaps in the consists.

                        I have since used ConBuilder to test consists in all the "Original" activities and no errors were found. (Knew I would not find any because that is one of the things I did when beta testing.) So if you were running one of the "Original" activities (FYI the filename should begin with "3DT-") post that ACT file to this thread. If it is an aftermarket activity, post the ZIP filename.
                        Charles

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                        • daniellouwrens
                          1500 Post Veteran

                          • Sep 2005
                          • 1730
                          • Gandangara Estate, Sutherland Shire. N.S.W, Australia.

                          #13
                          Hi Charles

                          by missing I mean it does not show as a part of the train, the marker for "Player" shows and moves with the train but no train is seen
                          I will have another go and check OR LOG when I get a chance,

                          Regards

                          Daniel
                          Daniel - Sydney (Glad I'm not in Townsville)
                          It used to be my favourite place in the world.

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                          • crstagg
                            4500 Post Veteran


                            • Nov 1999
                            • 4885
                            • Huntsville, AL
                            • Texan
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            Originally posted by daniellouwrens
                            Hi Charles

                            by missing I mean it does not show as a part of the train, the marker for "Player" shows and moves with the train but no train is seen
                            I will have another go and check OR LOG when I get a chance,

                            Regards

                            Daniel
                            Which activity? Or is it an loco only Player consists? Assuming you mean the entire consist is missing.
                            Charles

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                            • oper190
                              1000 Post Veteran



                              • May 2010
                              • 1498
                              • Port Charlotte, FL
                              • English
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              Some screen shots would also be helpful to understand what you are seeing. Any suggestions are simple best guesses otherwise.
                              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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