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  • dkingsburg
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 564
    • Cabot, Arkansas
    • MSOR

    #1

    Make Hopper bat.

    For the Lehigh Valley Route it Calls for LV 25772 and A Berwind Hopper. When I Open the File there is an Item Labeled Make Hopper bat for Both Cars. When I Click it there is a Quick Flash and then Nothing. Nothing Gets Created. What Am I Doing Wrong or Not Doing?
    The Files are lv25772.zip and bwcx50t.zip
    DaveK
    Last edited by dkingsburg; 10-02-2024, 15:28.
  • lineman
    Senior Member

    • Mar 2007
    • 539
    • Phoenix AZ
    • General

    #2
    Alco RS11 Trainset from www.trainartisan was needed for the files to create those hoppers.

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    • eric
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      • Dec 2002
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      #3
      Both of those files are in the library:

      https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=57697

      https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=53854

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      • slipperman
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        • May 2010
        • 3787
        • Worksop, UK
        • MSOR

        #4
        Hi,
        Originally posted by lineman
        Alco RS11 Trainset from www.trainartisan.com was needed for the files to create those hoppers.
        That site hasn't been available for a long time!!

        Check here :
        Custom built Locomotives for Microsoft Train Simulator and z-scale model railroading.


        Cheers,
        Ged


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        • dkingsburg
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 564
          • Cabot, Arkansas
          • MSOR

          #5
          Ged,
          Got it, Downloaded it and Installed it. One Problem is with the Berwind Hopper. No Matter What I Do with Naming the File it Still Won't Come Up. The LV Hopper Loaded Fine but For Whatever Reason the Berwind Hopper will not Come up in the Consist Editor on TSRE No Matter What I Do. Even Loading it Directly from Make Hopper bat it Still Won't Come Up. It's in the Trainset Folder with the Correct name but TSRE Won't Recognize it. I'll Just keep Manually Loading it Instead.
          Thankyou,
          DaveK

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          • eric
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            • Dec 2002
            • 9583
            • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
            • English, SQL
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            #6
            I took a look at the batch file -- it requires the following four files:

            ta_NKP_AlcoRS11\ta_NKP_50t_hop_empty.s
            ta_NKP_AlcoRS11\ta_NKP_50t_hop_loaded.s
            ta_NKP_AlcoRS11\ta_NKP_50t_hop_empty.sd
            ta_NKP_AlcoRS11\ta_NKP_50t_hop_loaded.sd

            The wag file calls for those specific shapes, so if you don't have the Alco folder with those two shapefiles and the related SD files, it's never going to work in TSRE or in ORTS.

            The installer itself from Archive.org is either corrupted or just inoperable. I also wasn't able to view the CAB files, which is never a good sign.

            If someone actually has the operating set and would be willing to zip up the ta_NKP_AlcoRS11 folder , this would qualify under the archive exception here in the library
            Last edited by eric; 10-03-2024, 18:00.
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            • eric
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              • Dec 2002
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              #7
              And just like that... it's here

              https://www.trainsim.com/forums/file...leid?fid=89422
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              • dkingsburg
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 564
                • Cabot, Arkansas
                • MSOR

                #8
                I Got the RS11 Trainset File and Downloaded and Installed it. Then When I Installed the LV 25772 and Clicked Make Hopper bat it Installed the Hopper Car and it loaded and Showed up in the Consist File.
                I Did the Exact Same Thing with the Berwind Hopper. It Installed in the Trainset File Just like the LV Car Did. BUT IT DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THE CONSIST FILE. It Still Shows up as Broken!
                DaveK

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                • oper190
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                  • May 2010
                  • 1498
                  • Port Charlotte, FL
                  • English
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                  #9
                  I just downloaded both and made both cars. With the Berwind Hopper, did you run the second makehopper.exe file in the new folder made by the first .exe? That installs the .s and .sd shape files plus common files.
                  Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                  Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                  • dkingsburg
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 564
                    • Cabot, Arkansas
                    • MSOR

                    #10
                    The Car is In the Trainset File in Both Loaded and Empty Configurations. But For Some Reason IT WILL NOT SHOW UP in the Consist File. I Have to Manually Install it in the Consist!!! The LV Car Loads in the Consists the Way it Should.
                    The Berwind Car Shows Broken Even though the Trainset Files are Labled Exactly the Way the Car is Supposed to Appear!
                    DaveK

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                    • oper190
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                      • May 2010
                      • 1498
                      • Port Charlotte, FL
                      • English
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Don't know what is wrong as you can see I have both hoppers working in OR. I use ConBuilder and only got errors in the .wag names for the LV hoppers which were easily fixed.

                      Open Rails 2024-10-04 11-06-33.jpg

                      Since you didn't answer my question RE: running second makehopper.exe ( ok .bat file my error ) file - does you Trainset Folder look like this? If not run the file as indicated in red.

                      file.jpg
                      Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                      Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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                      • dkingsburg
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 564
                        • Cabot, Arkansas
                        • MSOR

                        #12
                        I Ran the Make Hopper.bat! The Car Installed in the Trainset File in Both Loaded and Empty Configurations. The LV Hopper did the Same Thing. However the LV Hopper DOES SHOW UP in the Train Consist the Way it Should. The Berwind Hopper Still Shows up as Broken!!! The Car is There but for some Reason TSRE Does Not Recognize it and it Still Comes Up as Broken!!!
                        DaveK

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                        • baldwin
                          6000 Post Veteran


                          • Nov 1999
                          • 6358
                          • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          You need the TA RS11 set installed in the same trainset as the Berwind hopper. Run the bat file that is in the berwind hopper folder and it will get the required s and sd files from the RS11 folder. Without the S file at least, it will always show as broken.
                          Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                          • dkingsburg
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 564
                            • Cabot, Arkansas
                            • MSOR

                            #14
                            It Is in the Same Trainset and the s and sd Files are there!
                            DaveK

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                            • oper190
                              1000 Post Veteran



                              • May 2010
                              • 1498
                              • Port Charlotte, FL
                              • English
                              • MSOR

                              #15
                              Can't offer anything more, as mine are working so have no idea why yours aren't.
                              Geary "Mr. Hart" Gerhardt - Owner and CEO of Hart Rail Lines, Hart Commuter Railways, and Hart Rail Cars. Also the defunct Hart Electric Transit.
                              Its Your Train Sim World, sim as you please.

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