L&PS Route In Open Rails

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  • eric
    9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



    • Dec 2002
    • 9583
    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
    • English, SQL
    • General

    #31
    I use Notepad2 (similar to Notepad++) which has syntax/context highlighting and brace matching ( start and end of the block you're in), which is good for STF files because they tend to have shorter nested sections. Not so great for longer code blocks.
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    • pschlik
      Senior Member



      • Jun 2011
      • 289
      • Missouri
      • MSOR

      #32
      The brakes are poorly configured-they abuse an MSTS quirk that allows the brake cylinder pressure to go beyond the maximum pressure specified in the engine or wagon file, which OR does not allow. So in MSTS, you get a sensible amount of braking force but in OR the brake pressure is limited to 0.5 psi.

      In the latest testing version, 'correct questionable braking parameters' will try and fix that, but in any older version you'll have to find all instances of "BrakeCylinderPressureForMaxBrakeBrakeForce ( 0.50 )" and replace that 0.5 with something more sensible like 50psi (technically, the limit should probably be higher than that even but multiplying by 100 makes the math easier), then also change the "MaxBrakeForce" to account for the increase in pressure (in this case, multiply by 100).

      Also, as for the testing version, a more permanent solution than correct questionable parameters is to delete "BrakeCylinderPressureForMaxBrakeBrakeForce ( 0.50 )" and replace with "ORTSBrakeForceReferencePressure ( 0.50 )". This would restore the MSTS behavior where there is no limit on the brake cylinder pressure.

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      • niknak
        1000 Post Veteran


        • Nov 1999
        • 1254
        • UK.
        • MSOR

        #33
        Thanks for that Phil. I ticked the 'questionable' box in my ORNYMG installation and tried the 'first activity'. It definitely makes a difference.
        Regards,

        Nick

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        • tlowe
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 30
          • Oregon, US
          • General

          #34
          Thanks Phil, I tried changing the "MaxBrakeForce" by x100 and everything works great now.

          Tim

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          • eastyorker12
            New Member
            • May 2024
            • 8

            #35
            Where do you find "BrakeCylinderPressureForMaxBrakeBrakeForce"

            Cheers

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            • eastyorker12
              New Member
              • May 2024
              • 8

              #36
              Never mind I found it.

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              • dforrestc
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 227
                • St. Vincent and the Grenadines
                • ORTS

                #37
                I am very interested in this route having run it years ago in MSTS. I downloaded the OR version from here a few days ago but it appears to have been removed. What MSTS files do I need to add to the OR download?

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                • slipperman
                  3500 Post Veteran



                  • May 2010
                  • 3787
                  • Worksop, UK
                  • MSOR

                  #38
                  Hi David,
                  I think it's been replaced by lpsv3-mini.zip - file ID 89028 - and appears to contain the required MSTS files, Although I've not installed and run it (yet!!)

                  Cheers,
                  Ged

                  EDIT : Have now installed the 'mini' version. Open Rails doesn't report any missing files, but don't start at the '_Incline Railway' otherwise you'll be rolling downhill followed by the application of the emergency brake!!
                  Last edited by slipperman; 07-16-2024, 14:40.

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                  • lineman
                    Senior Member

                    • Mar 2007
                    • 539
                    • Phoenix AZ
                    • General

                    #39
                    Been there done that! It pays to look where you start!

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                    • eric
                      9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                      • Dec 2002
                      • 9583
                      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                      • English, SQL
                      • General

                      #40
                      Yeah, the incline got me as well
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                      • dforrestc
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 227
                        • St. Vincent and the Grenadines
                        • ORTS

                        #41
                        I am sill getting many errors and warnings in the OR log file.

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                        • slipperman
                          3500 Post Veteran



                          • May 2010
                          • 3787
                          • Worksop, UK
                          • MSOR

                          #42
                          Hi David,
                          Then, may I, respectfully, suggest that you're doing something wrong?

                          Exactly what errors are you seeing? It may be a good idea to post your log.

                          Cheers,
                          Ged

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                          • dforrestc
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 227
                            • St. Vincent and the Grenadines
                            • ORTS

                            #43
                            Here is my log.
                            Attached Files

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                            • rdayt
                              1000 Post Veteran

                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1291
                              • SW MO
                              • ORTS

                              #44
                              Warning: System.IO.FileLoadException: {TileX:-11284 TileZ:14483 X:959.777 Y:239.886 Z:-678.112}

                              Is this why you can't see it? It's 2200 feet underground.
                              TSRE's Errors and Messages tool may take you there and allow you to delete that piece so it can be placed where it belongs.
                              Good luck.

                              Randy

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                              • slipperman
                                3500 Post Veteran



                                • May 2010
                                • 3787
                                • Worksop, UK
                                • MSOR

                                #45
                                Hi David,
                                I didn't have any warnings or errors in the log, but I only started Explore mode in one path so those tiles were obviously not loaded..

                                I've just tried to load LRM & McClary activity and saw 15 'Failed to load' tile errors (Scenery objects 9, 148 - 157, 163, 168, 176 & 184. All shown as 'Value cannot be null') together with several sms errors.

                                Apologies for the incorrect information I gave.

                                Ged
                                Last edited by slipperman; 07-19-2024, 14:09.

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