Station List is Incorrect

[Jefffish]

Help! I'm going nuttso trying to figure this out.

The list of stations is on Track Viewer and the actual route are all in the proper sequence, but somehow the stations are out of order when viewing the Service Editor and the Timetable Editor, and when running the activity. This results in time differences for the stations affected, and I get "missed" messages for stations that I've already stopped at.

I've tried removing and replacing the stations using TSRE5 Route Editor, thinking it would somehow "reset", but nothing seems to work.
It's not all the stations....only a few.

This is happening on Vince's LIRR route.

I can simply enjoy my activity and disregard the time and station discrepancies, but I'd rather fix this for good if I can.

[eric]

Have you looked at the service and traffic files? That might be where the misordering is.

[eric]

This is what a service definition in the ACT and TRF files looks like -- make sure the platform ID's are in the right order:

Service_Definition ( HwhRncShatabdi 30300
                UiD ( 3 )
                Efficiency ( 0.75 )
                SkipCount ( 0 )
                DistanceDownPath ( 59.4904 )
                PlatformStartID ( 921 )
                Efficiency ( 0.75 )
                SkipCount ( 17 )
                DistanceDownPath ( 54527.1 )
                PlatformStartID ( 736 )
                Efficiency ( 0.75 )
                SkipCount ( 21 )
                DistanceDownPath ( 63302.3 )
                PlatformStartID ( 700 )
                Efficiency ( 0.75 )
                SkipCount ( 24 )
                DistanceDownPath ( 73297.8 )
                PlatformStartID ( 668 )
                Efficiency ( 0.75 )
                SkipCount ( 25 )
                DistanceDownPath ( 78280.9 )
                PlatformStartID ( 641 )
            )​

The Service File is similar:

Service_Definition (
    Serial ( 5 )
    Name ( AsnBwnMEMU )
    Train_Config ( "Memu Rake_g" )
    PathID ( AsnBwnMEMU )
    MaxWheelAcceleration ( 0 )
    Efficiency ( 0.75 )
    TimeTable (
        StartingSpeed ( 0 )
        EndingSpeed ( 0 )
        StartInWorld ( 0 )
        EndInWorld ( 0 )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 673 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 496.095 )
            SkipCount ( 0 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 680 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 5241.02 )
            SkipCount ( 1 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 688 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 10009.6 )
            SkipCount ( 2 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 706 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 13561.9 )
            SkipCount ( 4 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 724 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 19111 )
            SkipCount ( 6 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 743 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 22645.6 )
            SkipCount ( 8 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 757 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 27032.3 )
            SkipCount ( 10 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 766 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 30233.1 )
            SkipCount ( 11 )
        )
        StationStop (
            PlatformStartID ( 782 )
            DistanceDownPath ( 34946.1 )
            SkipCount ( 12 )
        )
    )
)​

[Jefffish]

Thanks, Eric!

I looked at both thinking they might be the culprit. I'm not understanding the numbering of the "distance down path" code, it doesn't appear to be milepost-related. Is there a file where those codes are stored for each station? I could match them up....

Thanks for your assistance.

[eric]

Distance down path is meters from the starting point of the path.

Take a look at the [routename].tit file and you'll see platform names along with a TrItemID -- that **might** line up... I don't work with Activities much, but it makes the most sense that a platform's TrItemID would be the Platform ID in the activity/service/traffic files....

    PlatformItem (
        TrItemId ( 36 )
        TrItemSData ( 51.752598 00000002 )
        TrItemRData ( 401.89798 93.005096 -392.49799 -10934 14490 )
        PlatformTrItemData ( 00000000 37 )
        PlatformName ( "Bellows Falls" )
        Station ( "Bellows Falls" )
        PlatformMinWaitingTime ( 300 )
        PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 20 )
    )
    PlatformItem (
        TrItemId ( 37 )
        TrItemSData ( 123.182 00000002 )
        TrItemRData ( 473.138 93.005096 -390.11301 -10934 14490 )
        PlatformTrItemData ( ffff0000 36 )
        PlatformName ( "Bellows Falls" )
        Station ( "Bellows Falls" )
        PlatformMinWaitingTime ( 300 )
        PlatformNumPassengersWaiting ( 20 )
    )​

[Jefffish]

Thanks so much, I'll check these options out.

[Jefffish]

Well, I was able to fix the issue by adjusting the activity and service files. Still searching for the cause of the problem.

Thanks again!.

[eric]

Cool. Were they out of order?

[Jefffish]

Yes. A careful cutting and pasting solved the activity and service files issue, but I'm still trying to determine why the path info doesn't transfer over to those two files correctly. It's only a handful of station stops. I haven't yet determined how to adjust the path file info, as the coding numbers appear to be different.

[slipperman]

Hi Jefffish,
May I respectfully suggest that, unless you're extremely clever and know the MSTS system inside out, you DO NOT try manually editing the Service, Traffic and Path files, because you'd be doomed to failure!
On the other hand, IF you do know everything about the interaction between those files and their format, I'm impressed, but have ask why you are asking for help here ??

Cheers,
Not-so-clever, Ged

[Jefffish]

Hi!
All I'm trying to do is to have the next station list in certain activities I created to correctly correspond to "reality", as it applies to the actual route. For some reason, some stations are not appearing in the proper order. Perhaps it's because I'm relying on activities and not timetable mode?
Thanks!