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  • Curt C
    1000 Post Veteran

    • Jul 2001
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    #1

    ORTS FMC Hoppers download

    Needing some help with this download from today. Read the "Read Me", but still lots of questions, and a lot of it is not making sense to me.. Where's the sd. files, etc? Anyone who has had some success with this, please advise. The cars really look great, so hoping I can get them up and running. Thanks in advance,

    Curt
  • lineman
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    • Mar 2007
    • 539
    • Phoenix AZ
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    #2
    SD files are not needed in OR.

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    • Curt C
      1000 Post Veteran

      • Jul 2001
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      #3
      Yes, I knew that, but the files were not showing up. I re-uploaded and got it straightened out now - I appreciate your response.

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      • charland
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        • Dec 2006
        • 3107
        • Brockville, ON, CA
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        #4
        I use Winzip when I upload rolling stock and route folders. When you unzip it there is an outer folder with the right name, but when you open it, there is an inner folder with the same name. The inner folder contains everything you need, so copy it and paste it into the Trainsets folder.

        Paul :-)

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        • Unoriginal
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          • Jan 2021
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          #5
          You need the NAVS FMC hopper kit (navs_jeff_a_fmc_4700_kit.zip) if you don’t already have it.

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          • crstagg
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            • Nov 1999
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            #6
            Originally posted by lineman
            SD files are not needed in OR.
            Originally posted by Curt C
            Yes, I knew that, but the files were not showing up. I re-uploaded and got it straightened out now - I appreciate your response.
            Also, the skins for these Wagons are DDS files. These are ORTS Only wagons. Reread the file descriptions.

            And you don't "need" the NAVS FMC kit the creator just suggest that you get it.
            From the Description and the ReadMe
            No additional files are required. ​
            Charles

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            • yellowdog
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              • Nov 1999
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              #7
              With many NAVS items, the tonnage appears incorrectly in TSRE. I'm wondering if the .inc files needs to be corrected, or if it's just TSRE incorrectly processing the tonnage (but ORTS will properly process it). For the FMC hoppers referenced in this set, TSRE shows the loaded mass at 263000 TONS instead of 263000 LBS (empty mass is 60600 TONS).

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              • eric
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                • Dec 2002
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                #8
                I'd trust what the ENG file and ORTS say... TSRE had some assumptions built into it that may not prove to be correct.
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                • yellowdog
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                  • Nov 1999
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                  #9
                  Cool, thanks! The loaded version of the .inc for the RSeries shows

                  Mass ( 263000lb )

                  How do I check ORTS to make sure it's reading it correctly? I wonder if there's any harm/difference in converting it to:

                  Mass ( 131.5t )

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                  • crstagg
                    4500 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by yellowdog
                    With many NAVS items, the tonnage appears incorrectly in TSRE. I'm wondering if the .inc files needs to be corrected, or if it's just TSRE incorrectly processing the tonnage (but ORTS will properly process it). For the FMC hoppers referenced in this set, TSRE shows the loaded mass at 263000 TONS instead of 263000 LBS (empty mass is 60600 TONS).
                    ???? Have you hijacked this thread? Which FMC Hopper sets are you referring to? I assumed that the OP was referring to the recently uploaded sets ORTS_FMC_Hoppers_Mixed_Set_1.zip and ORTS_FMC_Hoppers_Mixed_Set_2.zip. Both sets' Wagon files have Mass entry expressed as Tons and TRSE-CE displays the same values as in the WAG file. Also, NO Include files or statements are use in the ZIPs recently uploaded.
                    Charles

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                    • Erick_Cantu
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                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1041
                      • Brighton, MA 02135
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by yellowdog
                      Cool, thanks! The loaded version of the .inc for the RSeries shows

                      Mass ( 263000lb )

                      How do I check ORTS to make sure it's reading it correctly? I wonder if there's any harm/difference in converting it to:

                      Mass ( 131.5t )
                      Hit Shift+F5 a few times. OR reads the mass correctly, TSRE does not. There's just no point in doing conversions for units when OR manages them natively, so I didn't do any converting as it introduces a potential point of error that just isn't necessary to add.

                      As an aside, if OR was reading the mass as 263,000 tons, that is, 263,000 lbs x 2000, then that would be the equivalent of 2,000 cars... you would know very quickly if OR was reading the data wrong.
                      Erick Cantu
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                      • yellowdog
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                        • Nov 1999
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                        #12
                        Perfect, thanks, Erick!

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                        • Curt C
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                          • Jul 2001
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                          #13
                          Thanks to Peter for releasing these - really enjoying them!

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