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  • thescreecher
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    • Oct 2023
    • 157
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    #1

    MSTS loco parts don't move when being clicked and dragged, sometimes they do not work

    I have a problem currently with some MSTS locos and running them in OR. In some locomotive cabs, some parts don't move when I try to drag and set them. (e.g. most commonly brakes, extremely rarely regulator and sometimes, glitchy reverser)

    Brakes: They are not a big problem, but it is kinda annoying.
    Throttle: I had just found out this today. I tried to run Hugh Reilly's repaint of the NALW Big Boy. I turned off the brakes, set the reverser to go forward, did everything to make the locomotive start moving. But when I set the throttle, the throttle was at 100% but it was still in an off position. The locomotive was not moving. I tried to use sanders. Nothing happened. The locomotive was stationary.

    I basically need help fixing this problem.
  • spoony1999
    Senior Member


    • Aug 2007
    • 309
    • Illinois
    • MSOR

    #2
    Did you insert the quarter into the slot?

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    • baldwin
      6000 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 6358
      • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Try using the keyboard commands instead of dragging with the mouse.
      Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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      • thescreecher
        Active Member
        • Oct 2023
        • 157
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        #4
        Originally posted by spoony1999
        Did you insert the quarter into the slot?
        Huh? What does that mean? I think it means put a coin into the arcade machine, in which I did.

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        • thescreecher
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          • Oct 2023
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          #5
          Originally posted by baldwin
          Try using the keyboard commands instead of dragging with the mouse.
          I don't think that will work.

          Edit: Nope, didn't work.
          Last edited by thescreecher; 12-28-2023, 10:34. Reason: Update

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          • qballbandit
            6500 Post Veteran

            • Jan 2006
            • 6522
            • Elgin Il., USA.
            • MSOR

            #6
            Off topic, but helpful for shrinking the thread entries - think of using the "edit" function when you have a boatload of replies within minutes of each other, instead of continually creating a new reply with just a few words.
            You can still quote back, but sooooo much more fluid reading through your threads.
            A lot of the new topics you open up, I see you have a ton of reply entries within a relatively short time.
            Neil

            Chicago Railroading Fan

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            • thescreecher
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              • Oct 2023
              • 157
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              #7
              Mmmmm sure.

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              • crstagg
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                • Nov 1999
                • 4885
                • Huntsville, AL
                • Texan
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                #8
                Originally posted by thescreecher
                I have a problem currently with some MSTS locos and running them in OR. In some locomotive cabs, some parts don't move when I try to drag and set them. (e.g. most commonly brakes, extremely rarely regulator and sometimes, glitchy reverser)

                Brakes: They are not a big problem, but it is kinda annoying.
                Throttle: I had just found out this today. I tried to run Hugh Reilly's repaint of the NALW Big Boy. I turned off the brakes, set the reverser to go forward, did everything to make the locomotive start moving. But when I set the throttle, the throttle was at 100% but it was still in an off position. The locomotive was not moving. I tried to use sanders. Nothing happened. The locomotive was stationary.

                I basically need help fixing this problem.
                When will you learn that unless you are specific about the problem you are encountering, you will not receive help? In this case you need to identify the specific locomotive by filename or name line of the loco and to the name of the ZIP file if it is from a download as some of us will download a file we don't have just to provide help.

                BUT if you continue to be ambiguous, you will end up on our ignore list.
                Charles

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                • spoony1999
                  Senior Member


                  • Aug 2007
                  • 309
                  • Illinois
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crstagg

                  When will you learn that unless you are specific about the problem you are encountering, you will not receive help? In this case you need to identify the specific locomotive by filename or name line of the loco and to the name of the ZIP file if it is from a download as some of us will download a file we don't have just to provide help.

                  BUT if you continue to be ambiguous, you will end up on our ignore list.
                  Very well said, I hope they finally take that advise, but I doubt it

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                  • thescreecher
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                    • Oct 2023
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                    #10
                    Anyways the glitched throttle loco filename is hrbbchup.zip. Infact I think it can happen with almost any one, but I can tell YOU another filename in which the components are "frozen" which is jupiter.zip, but that is not always a problem. It almost happens with anything. The list goes on. One example for each should help. All the files here are from TrainSim.com.

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                    • crstagg
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                      • Nov 1999
                      • 4885
                      • Huntsville, AL
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by thescreecher
                      Anyways the glitched throttle loco filename is hrbbchup.zip. Infact I think it can happen with almost any one, but I can tell YOU another filename in which the components are "frozen" which is jupiter.zip, but that is not always a problem. It almost happens with anything. The list goes on. One example for each should help. All the files here are from TrainSim.com.
                      hrbbchup.zip.requires HRBBCHAL.ZIP also be installed. Did you install it also?
                      Charles

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                      • crstagg
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                        • Nov 1999
                        • 4885
                        • Huntsville, AL
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                        #12
                        I don't run steam much. Don't remember if I have ever run Steam in OR till now. Just tried running UP Challenger 3977 NALW. Get the same results you described. But runs fine using keyboard, Also notice that controls do not move when I use keyboard commands. Running OR Ver 1.5.1-411

                        Tried running UP Challenger 3977 NALW. in MSTS got the same results as I did above. Do you get the same with the Big Boy in MSTS? Tried another Steam loco not from NALW. Controls react to cursor in both MSTS and ORTS.
                        Last edited by crstagg; 12-28-2023, 15:12. Reason: Comments from further testing
                        Charles

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                        • thescreecher
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                          • Oct 2023
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by crstagg

                          hrbbchup.zip.requires HRBBCHAL.ZIP also be installed. Did you install it also?
                          Yes I did.

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                          • thescreecher
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                            • Oct 2023
                            • 157
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by crstagg
                            I don't run steam much. Don't remember if I have ever run Steam in OR till now. Just tried running UP Challenger 3977 NALW. Get the same results you described. But runs fine using keyboard, Also notice that controls do not move when I use keyboard commands. Running OR Ver 1.5.1-411

                            Tried running UP Challenger 3977 NALW. in MSTS got the same results as I did above. Do you get the same with the Big Boy in MSTS? Tried another Steam loco not from NALW. Controls react to cursor in both MSTS and ORTS.
                            In fact, the Big Boy is the problematic engine that I tried out. I am currently trying to run it in MSTS and it works totally fine. Everything works fine in MSTS.

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                            • R. Steele
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                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3928
                              • known universe
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by thescreecher
                              Everything works fine in MSTS.
                              Everything was made for msts, and some of it had problems caused by inexperience, sloppy work, inattentiveness, or who? knows what --- you'll have to put in the time fixin' some older stuff, so that it runs in OR. We all do that. Thanks to the OR Development Team [ volunteer ] for their dedicated and hard work in making the preponderance of the msts legacy equipment work reasonably well in Open Rails.
                              Last edited by R. Steele; 12-28-2023, 18:49.
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