Is there a way of converting Seligman 1 activities to Seligman 2 specs?

**eric** · 10-23-2023, 11:42

Usually it's just the paths, and you can rebuild most of them using automatically using the ORTS track viewer. But there are some significant track differences between the ATSF and BNSF version, so that may require rebuilding them by hand, and depending on the differences it may invalidate some of the services timings.

**RobGuru** · 10-23-2023, 12:16

How do you rebuild paths with trackviewer?

**rdayt** · 10-23-2023, 13:46

pths.jpg
It's pretty intuitive after that.

Randy

**RobGuru** · 10-23-2023, 14:01

The path EB_BNSF from sliap.zip cannot be fixed with trackviewer.

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 14:30

Saw this thread this weekend, download ulase-18 activity mentioned above and installed it. The Player path is the first path I always start with before attempting any traffic paths. I did this with ulase-18 player path ( name: Ulane-18 Player.pat ).

There were a few broken nodes, so I used the fix broken nodes first instead of the fix all paths...which is a wholesale move. Saved path...which still had a broken end.

Editing any path requires you to remove the end point,--- in this case with the broken end point --- removing the end point also caused the program to shut down. So I enabled editing again and used the "delete rest of path" option ( right mouse control brings up editing options ) to remove the path from the best node closest to the bad end point. That removed the funky end point that caused the OR trackviewer to crash....I then made a new end point near where the path originally ended and saved the path.

Path saved fine. I then opened the activity in OR ( after commenting out the entire loose consist section and the traffic section of the activity --- in effect an activity with only a player path and player service. ) Activity loaded fine in OR ( I had previously repaired the player consist ). Onto the traffic and loose consists...after removing the "Comment" from the traffic section and loose consist section.

With respect to Randy -- it is a little more than intuitive...but I did learn by doing a few years back by using the trackviewer, making mis-steps and trying again. It is actually easy to use, there is a manual in the "Documentation" folder in the latest stable version. Of course, searching the two forums (TS and ET ) will bring up numerous threads about the trackviewer.

I have used the repair all paths optiion....most recently on the PRR EastV2 version that Vince released. That is still a complex and ongoing job that I go back every so often. The complexity of the route and activities add to the work...with a route like the ATSF seligman ( or the BNSF version ) --- the task of repairing the paths is much simpler.

I always open the broken paths for any activity ( starting with player path ) in the trackviewer and get a sense of where they are going, the actual beginning and end points...making notes as I go. I always make a copy of the broken path and set it aside...adding copies of my work as I go. I also look for reverse points and where the player train path goes when approaching sidings or yards. OR is so flexible ( running in manual vs. auto mode ) that if you miss a reverse point just switch modes when running the activity.

If you want to try, you can PM me if you get stuck, I may or may not be of assistance...I'm still learning myself.

Ulane-18.jpg

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 14:31

Originally posted by RobGuru

The path EB_BNSF from sliap.zip cannot be fixed with trackviewer.

Just saw this while writing and posting my reply --- let me have a look at it. I downloaded all the activities and have the path. Will post here.

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 14:36

Rob...can you tell me which activity this path -- EB_BNSF -- belongs to...I just opened the zip file and there are too many to sort thru if you want an answer sometime this year --- it would help. 😏

**RobGuru** · 10-23-2023, 15:10

BNSF 4823 East for Seligman.

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 16:15

After a false start, I got it. Will post back directly.

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 16:35

It's fixed. Open the path with the trackviewer --

1. Enable editing
2. Fix all nodes
3. Go to last best node before broken end point ( east canyon diablo ) and with mouse arrow on the good node right click and choose "delete rest of path"
IMPORTANT EDIT___3A. Shift+PAGE UP will automatically draw the path past a node...so after deleting path use Shift+pageup and path will draw to end. It's all in the manual and in forum question threads.
4. Go to end --- the broken end point was end of track past Winslow -- east of East Storage -- and add an end point.
5. Save path overwriting if/when asked.

EB BNSF.jpg

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 16:40

After fixing paths, you may have to rework them again when doing test runs with the activity, especially if train ( player or traffic ) is not taking a correct siding -- or in the case of a passenger activity not taking the passenger terminal siding. You can see where the repaired path automatically drew itself when repaired going through Winslow...that may not be correct.

Winslow.jpg

**RobGuru** · 10-23-2023, 17:45

Could you send me the fixed path?

**R. Steele** · 10-23-2023, 17:53

Originally posted by RobGuru

Could you send me the fixed path?

Of course, PM me with an email address. I will say publicly -- no offense meant -- I like to teach people how to fish, I am not in the business of providing the actual fish.

**RobGuru** · 10-23-2023, 17:57

How do you add an end point?