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  • dcarleton
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    • Nov 2008
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    #16
    Correct. Guilford kept everything of value, as much as they could. They even kept the shops at Colonie!

    CSX, on the other hand, used their credit to try to make the NYSW operation of the D&H successful. Completely different way of doing business.

    For our purposes as modelers, during the NYSW era on the D&H you'd see all kinds of combinations. You'd see D&H power, D&H power that had been Guilford-ized, Susquehanna power, Chessie power, and even some N&W/NS power. Fascinating era, wish we had a better route to run it on....

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    • CSRX
      13500 Post Veteran



      • Oct 2005
      • 13646
      • Lincoln, ME
      • English
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      #17
      Originally posted by dcarleton
      Correct. Guilford kept everything of value, as much as they could. They even kept the shops at Colonie!

      CSX, on the other hand, used their credit to try to make the NYSW operation of the D&H successful. Completely different way of doing business.

      For our purposes as modelers, during the NYSW era on the D&H you'd see all kinds of combinations. You'd see D&H power, D&H power that had been Guilford-ized, Susquehanna power, Chessie power, and even some N&W/NS power. Fascinating era, wish we had a better route to run it on....
      I guess what I'm saying with D&H being a CSXT heritage, is the fact the D&H, MEC, B&M, PTM, and ST were/are under the Guilford Rail System name, eventually being transferred over to Pan Am Railways name, and CSXT has officially purchased Pan Am Railways and all it's assets.

      Granted they have pretty much pawning off most of the B&M as well, but it's still a heritage.
      -Shawn K-
      MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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      • Unoriginal
        Senior Member


        • Jan 2021
        • 406
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        #18
        Originally posted by llanning08
        You can get the required SLI shape files by digging around in the Danny Beck files here in the Trainsim Library. Search danny_beck_ to find all of them. The Danny Beck files are a great resource for older SLI engines that are no longer available.
        The SD60s and SD70Ms don't use danny beck shape files. You can really only do that with the SD40-2s.

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        • dcarleton
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          • Nov 2008
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          #19
          Okay now I see where you're coming from Shawn, and yes that's very true too. (I was thinking more of legacy.)
          BTW, what happened to the Pan Am business train? Those cars also came from the D&H.

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          • CSRX
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            • Oct 2005
            • 13646
            • Lincoln, ME
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            #20
            Originally posted by Unoriginal

            The SD60s and SD70Ms don't use danny beck shape files. You can really only do that with the SD40-2s.
            For the SD70M's, you can use the Union Pacific model from the UP TRAINSETS VOL 2 | TrainSimulations​ set.
            Edit: I gave this a try, yeah, never mind. A lot of the sections didn't match up, such as the nose and the trucks..

            for the SD60's, the CN&W model could work, as the image files match, CNW TRAINSETS VOL. 1 | TrainSimulations​
            However, I believe the CSXT model could work just as well. I have the set, but I can't seem to figure out what folder they are in. I know I have the AC44's, so maybe I purchased them prior to being placed all in the same package.
            CSX TRAINSETS VOL. 1 | TrainSimulations​





            Originally posted by dcarleton
            Okay now I see where you're coming from Shawn, and yes that's very true too. (I was thinking more of legacy.)
            BTW, what happened to the Pan Am business train? Those cars also came from the D&H.
            Parked down in Jacksonville as far as I am aware. Not really sure whats going to happen to them. The FP9's I am hoping either go off to a scenic railroad, or preserved somewhere. Passenger cars, they could either continue to use, or sell off to another railroad. I wouldn't be surprised if the Saratoga, Corinth & Hudson Railway buys them, or Vermont Railway buys them.​
            Last edited by CSRX; 10-13-2023, 16:09.
            -Shawn K-
            MEC Mountain Subdivision - Trackwork 70%, Scenery 35%
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            • wwhall
              Senior Member


              • May 2010
              • 652
              • Kansas
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              #21
              Originally posted by Unoriginal
              Eh, I might pass on those. I've seen them before and they just ain't for me.
              For their era, the F45 shape used for the NYSW F45 model was well-detailed--no Fred Flintstone wheels, etc. like so many models of that era of MSTS. The model's biggest fault is that the detail in the texture file is pretty low resolution, fuzzy, and pixelated. Editing the .ace files by sharpening them and possibly relettering them with higher resolution would solve a lot of the model's shortcomings.

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